[Charlie Austin]

[Bill Davis] “Huge swaths of editors heard the hue and cry at it’s birth and merely glanced at 10.0.1 and didn’t even want to take the time to investigate what might be useful about the X approach – writing it all off. “

Oh absolutely, and that’s not going to change. But, IMO, we’ve passed, or are close to passing, the “event horizon” with X… those folks are just a distraction at this point. Any convincing that needs doing can be done with real world examples now. This thread started with a legit question, let’s concentrate on that. 😉

In any case… I don’t feel the need to “defend” X anymore. I use it. It works. The End. 🙂 Now… we need to work on making it better!

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[Charlie Austin]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “this forum should at least be as much about that as anything else “

Yeah… let’s try and keep this thread proselytization free. I like it. 🙂

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[Charlie Austin]

[Bill Davis] “Charlie seem to be discovering – while you might not learn to love the Primary as your FIRST order of business. The more comfortable you get with X, the more you see how it can be a HUGE help in many, many, many editing situations”

To be fair Bill, there are plenty of situations where it gets in the way. Features, promos, Trailers, Corporate, Television, wedding videos… all have different “needs” when it comes to a timeline. X isn’t perfect. But, neither is anything else right? The nice thing for me is now I basically have a MC style timeline, with gap clips etc, and a free flowing FCP classic style timeline all in one. It’s a work in progress though… 😉

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[Charlie Austin]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “with regard to the connected clip scratch approach – and I literally only mean this in the broadest sense – do you think this is an approach you have modelled yourself in answer to any deficiency in the primary?

Well… it doesn’t seem like a deficiency per se. What I like about connected clips in X is that you can easily just pop them into the sequence without worrying about clip collisions/overwriting etc. Just SHIFT 1,2, or 3 depending on whether I want A/V, V or A to go in, then hit Q. I don’t have to worry about precision at all. (Being an early adopter here, I still cut in 7 as well, and it drives me crazy that I have to tell the app where to put things! Lame… lol ) Anyway…Then I adjust the clips as needed and drop them down. I do still detach the audio, as I often chop up dialog, but once the clips are in the primary it’s “locked” to picture again. There are times, as John points out, where it’s more efficient to move connected clips around, for example dragging a clip and it’s dialog to another section, or to the end or something, but leaving FX and MX that may be linked to it. In that case a simple keystroke pos the clips out again.

[Aindreas Gallagher] I do get that apple have allowed different editing conditions between the primary and secondary – but no more than the promo example – do you feel comfortable with the space provided by the primary for your day to day stuff?

I think so, yes. As I said, I’m just diving in, but it hasn’t seemed to cause any problems. I still drag bits (as connected clips) past the end of the sequence to “store” them for potential use or whatever if that’s what you mean…

[Aindreas Gallagher] Are there any alterations you would like to see? or does this just work when you get your head around it?”

Well, for me, it seems to just work. But… I’m still getting my head around it. I may come in next week to say I hate it, but so far, so good. 🙂 I’d like the ability to minimize the primary as you can other trac… uh.. clips/roles. The biggest hurdle is learning KB shortcuts. There are a lot. All useful, all new. 😉

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[Charlie Austin]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “interesting recommendation there? discussion thing? does that make the apple timeline more interesting/less interesting to anyone involved? “

I posted this on another thread but… In the “article” I wrote here a while ago, one of my points was that I avoided the primary. However… I’ve been cutting stuff in X long enough that my comfort level is high enough to throw another wrench in it, so to speak. Thus, I’ve started cutting using the primary. Know what? it’s pretty nice. 🙂

No problem cutting “to time”. It’s no more difficult than any other NLE in that regard. And what’s really cool is using connected clips to “rough out” sections, and then just drop ’em into the primary and move on. They pop out just as easily if needed. Moving sections, shots, etc is EZ, and would probably be even smoother on a newer computer. The X GUI seems faster on my new Air at home than my Mac Pro at work. 😉

The biggest sticking point is, once again, training the old muscle memory… Tilde key is uh… key, but also using the position tool. I’ve spent almost 2 decades hitting A by default… P needs to become the default. I could remap the keyboard, but that’s cheating! 🙂

As a PS… Until apple gives us grouped Roles… Here’s a link to a 3 min silent .aif if anyone needs a “track” separator. 😉

5260_silentspacerdelete.aif.zip

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[Charlie Austin]

[Dan Walsh] “1. I’m wondering if anyone has a technique for controlling where a pasted connected clip ends up. Sometimes pasted clips get placed close to the storyline, but often I want them on top of other connected clips. Is there any way to control this, or workarounds you might have found?”

X used to paste connected clips above other connected clips, starting with 10.0.6, it now puts them underneath, which is sort of annoying. Use the Send feedback to Apple button and ask them to change it back. 🙂

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[Charlie Austin]

[Justin Mrkva] “it will hang at “Updating Event” for a random event on the drive (it stops at a random one each time).”

What version of FCPX are you on? I had a similar thing happen when I updated the app a couple versions ago… (I’m on .07 now, can’t recall which version update this happened on though…) I just kept force quitting and restarting the app ’til it got through them all. It seemed to pick up where it left off each time. Once they were all updated it was fine. Not sure what you’re seeing is the same but…

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[Charlie Austin]

[olof ekbergh] “Thanks for the undo tip I will start checking that. Does save duplicate project work once the undo stops working?

I was just surprised this happened all of a sudden, the first time I actually lost data in FCPX. I have had few crashes lately, then this all of a sudden.
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I think so, yes. Since it’s creating a new folder in the finder, not anything database dependent. It is weird, but hopefully you won’t see it again for a long long time. 😉

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[Charlie Austin]

[Sean ONeil] “The geniuses probably didn’t think 720×486@23.98 is a thing. FCPX seems to be assuming it’s interlaced when it isn’t and there’s nothing I can do to change its mind.”

Type “Conform frame sizes and frame rates” into the FCP X Help Menu search field. Go to the help topic that appears. The geniuses put instructions there for you. 🙂

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[Charlie Austin]

What John said… Add the root of every drive you need access to and you’ll be good to go…

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