Thanks guys, yes I did read the manuals and found that part out about putting on the timeline and typing. Unfortunately, I’m in a trial by fire and can’t do tutorials right now. The having to layer things threw me. At least my instincts we’re correct about the layering. I agree that…Avid’s basic titler is more user friendly. I forgot to ask, can you outline letters? I figured out the drop shadow. I’m going to check out the other options for more sophisticated titling after I complete this project. Thanks again