Kevin Hedin
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To me it sounds like either the result of a sloppy film transfer, or latency in your capture hardware that would result in inconsistant A frames.
It is my understanding, and my experience that frames :00 and :05 are the STANDARD ‘A’ frames whether shot on 24p Video cameras, or film transffered to video. It is a standard that I have come to rely for the last 7+ years. Without this standard, I would not be able to predict my pulldown pattern and would have to guess each time. And guessing is not very professional.
I HAVE run across footage with incorrect pulldown cadences, but they were either faulty clones from the original, or previously edited material, but usually rare cases in which I could deal with.
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[JeremyG] “The trick is, is that you have to make sure when you log the clips, the in point starts on an A frame (usually frame :00)”
Actually, it can be a frame that ends in :00 or 05. But since this could slow your logging process, just log as normal, then before capturing, change the MEDIA START TC in the Browser for each clip. I just change it to the nearest A frame (or :00, 05).
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FWIW, here is my setup:
IO ANALOG XLR IN/OUT –>BETASP (directly)
IO 25-PIN 8-CH ANALOG –>Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro –>RCA OUTS —> VHS DuplicationIf you need more than a direct connection to your Beta Deck, then get yourself a PATCH Panel.
The benefits of direct connection to you deck is, once you set your audio input levels from the IO, you’ll never have to mess with it again. -
Picking the A frame can be tricky, but while your in Cinema Tools, picking the A frame is simply choosing the frame that has a progressive frame to the left and to the right. Only the A frame will have a progressive frame immediately to the left and to the right. Park your playhead on that frame, and then do your conform. This should work.
You can save yourself time with this process if you make sure to capture your footage initially with each clip’s IN point ending in either a 5 or 0. Those two frame’s are A frames, and when you conform footage in Cinema tools using this method, placing the playhead at the head of the clip will always be the A frame. So you don’t have to FIND the A frame with each clip in Cinema Tools. Make sense?
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Since you shot in 24p, not 24pA, this is your only option, however, if you get yourself an IO from AJA or Film card from Aurora Systems, you can remove 24p pulldown on the fly. Personally, I use the AJA IO and it works very well. -
Yes, with version 2.0, you can remove the 3:2 pulldown from tapes that have it. I use it with Film footage transferred to Digibeta and BetaSP. There are so many reasons to work in a 24p workflow I could go on and on. With version 2.0 drivers, AJA added a few new presets to accomodate this process, and it’s pretty easy. It’s not a perfect system however, I find that 1 out of 20 or 30 clips needs to be re-captured becuase it got the 3:2 cadence wrong, but when re-captured it was fine. Also, one MUST remember to log thier clips with a starting timecode that ends in either 0 or 5, this is known as the ‘A’ frame, and the IO must be told what the ‘A’ frame is in order to remove the pulldown properly.
The problem (that I’m refering to in this thread) is that FCP seems very sluggish in a 24p (23.98) timeline. There doesn’t even need to be any clips on the timeline. As an example, I placed some audio on the timeline first and FCP hung for about 1 to 2 seconds everytime I moved around the timeline or tried to open the audio clip in the viewer. Jumping back to a 29.97 project proved that the symptoms went away. I’m totally lost on this one.
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Mark, I’m assuming you already repaired permissions and you didn’t update mid-project, right?
Seems to me that FCP 5.0.2 and OS 10.4.2 wasn’t broke, so I’m pretty stable staying right here. Is there some compelling reason that we should all update? Was it crashing before?
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So what are we to expect when AJA decides to update or deliver a new product in the future? Will the old PCI-X customers be left wanting, and only the PCI express customers will get the new goodies? I don’t plan on updating my existing G5 infrustructure anytime soon, but I do want options for SD/HD cards in the future. What’s the product roadmap look like?
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I’m going to guess the new product will have something to do with the new PCI-EXPRESS available in the new G5’s. Of course, that’s a pretty easy guess.. 🙂
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Shane,
Can you step me through converting an 24p EDL to a 29.97 EDL in CINEMA TOOLS? I’ve tried this several times, but Cinema Tools doesn’t seem to read my edl’s from FCP.Thanks