DVCPRO50 24p still is interlaced

[Jan Crittenden livingston]

You say you shot with 24P which would give you a 5 FRAME SEQUENCE AS YOU SAY. Had you shot in 24PA, you could have had FCP extract the 24 frames on the ingest. However in 24P, you will have to tell Cinema Tools which one is the A frame.

While I am not an expert on this but you should have captured at 29.97 as that is the speed of the recording and capture. Only once you have the material in and have opend Cinema Tools and made the extraction are your files going to be a 23.98. Once you have done this and made new files, these you can import into your sequence.

Hope this helps,

Jan

[Ryan Wyler]

That is my understanding also, the problem is in Cinema Tool there are no options for picking the A FRAME or any settings at all. I posted a screenshot of what I am seeing in Cinema Tools.

https://bridgetone.com/tmp/cinematools_screenshot.png

Thanks.

[Ryan Wyler]

If interested I posted a small clip of the footage here (44mb):
https://bridgetone.com/tmp/24p/

If you can, please tell me how to get it to 23.98fps without ANY interlacing.

[Jeremy Garchow]

What kind of capture hardware do you have?

[Ryan Wyler]

I captured the footage with a Panasonic AJ-SD93 deck plugged in FIREWIRE directly to my powermac.

[Jeremy Garchow]

Then how did you digitze 24p?

Was the footage shot 24p Normal or 24p Advanced?

Do you have capture hardware? An aja io or Kona2 cards can remove the normal pulldown cadence on the fly with proper setup.

If this isn’t for a film out and the footage was shot 24pNormal, then it’s fine if you digitize at regular 29.97. It’ll have the filmic look you are going for wihtout having to worry about adding/removing pulldown.

As Jan stated, if it was shot 24pAdvanced, then you could remove the advanced pulldown on the fly through firewire by tweaking the DV50 preset that came with FCP.

[Ryan Wyler]

The footage appears to be shot at 24p NORMAL (not advanced). From what you’re telling me I should be editing the 24p footage in a 29.97 timebase. When I do this, I can see clearly two out of five frames are still interlaced. Is this expected?

I uploaded 10 sequencial frames from the sequence at this location:
https://bridgetone.com/tmp/24p/frames/

Thanks.

[Kevin Hedin]

Picking the A frame can be tricky, but while your in Cinema Tools, picking the A frame is simply choosing the frame that has a progressive frame to the left and to the right. Only the A frame will have a progressive frame immediately to the left and to the right. Park your playhead on that frame, and then do your conform. This should work.

You can save yourself time with this process if you make sure to capture your footage initially with each clip’s IN point ending in either a 5 or 0. Those two frame’s are A frames, and when you conform footage in Cinema tools using this method, placing the playhead at the head of the clip will always be the A frame. So you don’t have to FIND the A frame with each clip in Cinema Tools. Make sense?
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Since you shot in 24p, not 24pA, this is your only option, however, if you get yourself an IO from AJA or Film card from Aurora Systems, you can remove 24p pulldown on the fly. Personally, I use the AJA IO and it works very well.

[Jeremy Garchow]

I take it this is your first experince wiht 24p?

Waht is the intended output? Tape? Film? DVD? Web?

It was shot normal, as that is a 3:2 pulldown cadence from the looks of the frames you posted.

[Ryan Wyler]

I tried this method of picking the A FRAME and then selecting the “REV TELECINE”. This resulted in the exact same output.