[John Steventon]

Thanks for replying,but sadly, I was told incorrect version numbers. We’re trying to jump from 3 to 7 it seems – not 5 to 7. And unless it’s hidden somewhere, there’s no Advanced Keyframe promotion option on BCC3.

Thanks for your help though, we’ll just need to speed up the upgrade process, and factor in time to re-create the effects!!

John

John Steventon
Senior Editor, BBC Scotland
“Success is merely a failure to imagine more…”

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[John Steventon]

Hey Kell,

I’m not entirely sure if this is what you’re meaning but here’s my answer to what I think you mean…

If I have a 20 minute clip with multiple takes and multiple scenes on it – one approach is to go through it in the source viewer, mark in’s and out’s for each piece you identify, then create subclips – either into individual bins – naming each clip accordingly, and whether you like it or not – or just into a master bin, named and liked accordingly. Set the clip-colour too, this translates onto the timeline (as long as you have ‘source’ picked in the clip-colour hamburger menu on your timeline) and you’ll have a visual guide (everything purple is an establisher, everything green is a GV etc etc).

If, however, you’d rather throw things around the timeline – use the ‘Add edit’ button to chop up the clip. You’ll need to edit the entire clip onto a new sequence, but once it’s there – use the add edit at the start of a take (making sure to select V1 and all audio channels) and then again at the end of the take.

This then splits the take – ready for you to move it to a preferred point on the timeline.

Now, you can either throw it to the start – add loads of filler and shove it down to the end as others have suggested, or mark an in/out on this chunk – then hit ‘alt/c’ to copy it into the source monitor.

Then if this is an establisher clip, create a new sequence (called establishers) and edit it onto there.

Why don’t you just edit directly from the long source clip I hear you ask? Well, good question actually, but I like to retain a ‘master’ split clip sequence, so if I need to trace my movements, I’ve got my original work.

There’s many ways to skin a cat (even if it’s sleeping) – these are just a couple of thoughts I had about what I thought you meant.

Stick with Avid. The best advice i can give is what someone said to me when I was moaning about FCP the first time I used it. “If you want to use Avid, just stay on Avid. If you want to use FCP, learn FCP.” (swap programs in your case)

Avid is key/menu based mostly – whereas FCP is based a lot around mouse clicks and drags. What I didn’t like about FCP is that there was 5 ways to do everything, which invariably meant you’d do the wrong thing 20% of the time. The good thing about Avid is that there’s only ever 1 or 2 ways to do something – it’s just that you have to find what key/menu to go to do it!

Good luck with it – as an editor, Avid just can’t be beat for speed once you know it.

John

John Steventon
Senior Editor, BBC Scotland
“Success is merely a failure to imagine more…”

2.26 Dual Quad Nehalem Mac Pro (11Gb Ram) / 2 x 23inch Apple Displays / FCP 6.05 / Decklink HD Extreme 3 + Multibridge / JVC HD Monitor / Atto Celerity Fibre Channel with Infortrend 6.5tb Raid 5 Storage / And a smile.

[John Steventon]

Thanks Peter. And apologies to anyone reading this for my poor typo – using ‘they’re’ instead of ‘their’.

🙂

J

John Steventon
Senior Editor, BBC Scotland
“Success is merely a failure to imagine more…”

2.26 Dual Quad Nehalem Mac Pro (11Gb Ram) / 2 x 23inch Apple Displays / FCP 6.05 / Decklink HD Extreme 3 + Multibridge / JVC HD Monitor / Atto Celerity Fibre Channel with Infortrend 6.5tb Raid 5 Storage / And a smile.

[John Steventon]

Yeah, i had that set to the right background too. Managed to ‘solve’ the issue by just using the 3D warp page turn in Avid – but it’s not as fluid as the Boris one, and looks nasty.

So no page turn… which is probably a good thing.

Thanks for helping – sorry it took so long to reply to your reply.

John

John Steventon
JKL Editing
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“Success is merely a failure to imagine more…”

2.26 Dual Quad Nehalem Mac Pro (11Gb Ram) / 2 x 23inch Apple Displays / FCP 6.05 / Decklink HD Extreme 3 + Multibridge / JVC HD Monitor / Atto Celerity Fibre Channel with Infortrend 6.5tb Raid 5 Storage / And a smile.

[John Steventon]

Is it maybe a spaces thing? I know that sometimes throws me – though most of the time spaces will auto-flick to the one I’ve set up for that app – but sometimes I’ll recover a hidden one, and when I recover it, it’ll happily open into its correct space, but I’m still in another one – and need to manually select the right one.

Unlikely to be the answer, but in case it helps get you any further with the problem.

John

John Steventon
JKL Editing
http://www.jklediting.com
“Success is merely a failure to imagine more…”

2.26 Dual Quad Nehalem Mac Pro (11Gb Ram) / 2 x 23inch Apple Displays / FCP 6.05 / Decklink HD Extreme 3 + Multibridge / JVC HD Monitor / Atto Celerity Fibre Channel with Infortrend 6.5tb Raid 5 Storage / And a smile.

[John Steventon]

I’m afraid I never stumbled on a solution. Still does it, on any resolution, with really fast, really empty drives.

I have, however, completely forgotten to try the work-around suggested earlier about it being a Blackmagic card problem – and will try that tonight.

THe work-around I came up with, in case you’re interested, was to export everything as DNxHD Quicktimes, and do all the grade and ‘put to tape’ part of the job on an Avid.

Go figure…

John

John Steventon
JKL Editing
http://www.jklediting.com
“Success is merely a failure to imagine more…”

2.26 Dual Quad Nehalem Mac Pro (11Gb Ram) / 2 x 23inch Apple Displays / FCP 6.05 / Decklink HD Extreme 3 + Multibridge / JVC HD Monitor / Atto Celerity Fibre Channel with Infortrend 6.5tb Raid 5 Storage / And a smile.

[John Steventon]

Nah, I’m still on 10.5.6 and I’ve just managed the update. Too scared to update the OS mid project, but not heard anything bad about the FCP update, so just took a deep breath and went for it.

Still can’t play real time HD 1080 properly, still get color shifts in and out of real time effects, still get colour shifts in and out of rendered effects and un-affected parts of a clip, still have inter-changing media through the same clip, still have….

John.

John Steventon
JKL Editing
http://www.jklediting.com
“Success is merely a failure to imagine more…”

2.26 Dual Quad Nehalem Mac Pro (11Gb Ram) / 2 x 23inch Apple Displays / FCP 6.05 / Decklink HD Extreme 3 + Multibridge / JVC HD Monitor / Atto Celerity Fibre Channel with Infortrend 6.5tb Raid 5 Storage / And a smile.

[John Steventon]

I’d assume this meant making something go from normal to fast, to faster, to slower, to faster, to normal etc.

But that might not be what THEY mean…

John

John Steventon
JKL Editing
http://www.jklediting.com
“Success is merely a failure to imagine more…”

2.26 Dual Quad Nehalem Mac Pro (11Gb Ram) / 2 x 23inch Apple Displays / FCP 6.05 / Decklink HD Extreme 3 + Multibridge / JVC HD Monitor / Atto Celerity Fibre Channel with Infortrend 6.5tb Raid 5 Storage / And a smile.

[John Steventon]

Not sure if I’ve got the right grasp of what you’re trying to do, but have you tried nesting all the frames into one big chunk on V2 (assuming V1 is the book) – and working with that? (select all frames, alt+c to nest)

Or am I off-base?

John Steventon
JKL Editing
http://www.jklediting.com
“Success is merely a failure to imagine more…”

2.26 Dual Quad Nehalem Mac Pro (11Gb Ram) / 2 x 23inch Apple Displays / FCP 6.05 / Decklink HD Extreme 3 + Multibridge / JVC HD Monitor / Atto Celerity Fibre Channel with Infortrend 6.5tb Raid 5 Storage / And a smile.

[John Steventon]

Hey Victor, thanks for the reply – alas, media management is something I’m rather anal about even at the best of times. But with 800 animation sketches to look after (and backup) before transferring everything off to Avid for grading, media management on this job is 100% paramount, and as such, all media and render files are slotted into their own designated areas on the Raid and checked for strays regularly (which I’m happy to say nothing’s gone astray yet).

Thanks for the suggestion though. Keep ’em coming!

John

John Steventon
JKL Editing
http://www.jklediting.com
“Success is merely a failure to imagine more…”

2.26 Dual Quad Nehalem Mac Pro (11Gb Ram) / 2 x 23inch Apple Displays / FCP 6.05 / Decklink HD Extreme 3 + Multibridge / JVC HD Monitor / Atto Celerity Fibre Channel with Infortrend 6.5tb Raid 5 Storage / And a smile.