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  • Does Avid hate me?

    Posted by Kell Smith on August 10, 2013 at 3:46 am

    So I”ve been a week in the trial of MC7, and I’m about to pull my hair out. I’m used to FCP but have decided to make the switch rather than go to fcpx.
    After getting past the initial media import issues, I still can barely get around in it at all. Then for some reason the timeline woudln’t take any video at all, which held me up forever, but when I reset it, things were fine. Currently I’m trying to figure out how to add markers and just learn where things are.
    I’ll figure it out, I’ll learn the program, but can someone here encourage me that this is worth pursuing? Because granted my schedule has allowed limited time in Avid this week, but my first impressions are that it’s clunky, unintuitive, and simply hard to get around in or figure out how to do anything at all.
    I’ve always wanted to learn Avid and am disappointed, because I expected to just fly right in and get rolling, since I took to FCP like a duck to water.
    I never expected to hate it and now I find myself dreading it a bit…having daydreams of how much easier Premiere won’t make me an Avid editor. I’m noticing more and more time spent stalling before going back in. Did I mention there are some very cute videos of cats falling asleep on YouTube?
    Any encouragement?
    Just venting, thanks…

    Adam White replied 12 years, 8 months ago 13 Members · 25 Replies
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  • Paul Provost

    August 10, 2013 at 6:12 am

    If you want fcp7 again, get premiere, or even fcpx. If you want to work in the post business and collaborate with other professionals, learn avid. Now. There are like 85 free tutorials on v6 here on the cow by Kevin mcauliffe. For free. Watch them. Only a few new things in v7, so it’s all still valid training.
    If you are just doing personal or self contained projects, premiere and fcpx are really great.
    But yeah, learning avid can be a bear, but it’s actually pretty freaking cool once you get it.

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  • Scott Cole

    August 10, 2013 at 10:06 am

    Another suggestion if I may… Find a friend who knows Avid and is willing to give you a few hours or a couple of days to walk you through the basics, show you all the settings windows, teach you about master clips vs media files, AMA vs native files, and all the other things that make Avid unique. Once you break the ice, learning all the details will be a lot easier. Avid is indeed a complicated program with lots of details, but and you’ll never know what you don’t known, but having someone walk you through it certainly makes it easier.

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  • Graham Tees

    August 10, 2013 at 11:08 am

    In addition to Kevin’s tutorials there are 200 tuts by Douglas here
    https://community.avid.com/forums/t/67003.aspx?PageIndex=1
    and here
    https://community.avid.com/forums/t/71781.aspx

    They are free to watch (best viewed using a Firfox browser). Douglas also offers them on a USB Flash Drive here
    https://www.gaijin-eyes.com/June2010DD/Offer200Thumb.html

    They are excellent, and have helped many newcomers to MC. Here is the main site:
    https://www.gaijin-eyes.com/June2010DD/SalesHome.html

  • Kell Smith

    August 10, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    Thank you everyone,
    I”lll be back at it today.
    I originally wanted to learn Avid at the beginning, and went to FCP reluctantly since that’s what was available.
    It’s just very different from my expectations. Never have I spent so much time fumbling around an interface, getting so little done, even in a new program. It’s not FCP and I need to throw that expectation out of the window and start from scratch and learn the way Avid thinks. It’s very different from the way I would think, where I would expect things to be – so….
    Hopefully once past the hurdles, I’ll love it. Everyone else seems to so it must just require persistence.
    Thx =)

  • Kell Smith

    August 10, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    I wish I knew someone who works in Avid. Unfortunately right now I don’t, but point taken, it might make sense to sign up for some Avid training once I am able to – just to get that perspective from someone who knows it well.

  • Roger Van duyn

    August 10, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    When I switched to Avid about 4 years ago, my experience was similar to yours. Now I love using it.

    What helped me was to just forget everything about how my previous editing program worked and just start fresh. Avid uses a completely different approach, so I had to think different (and I’ve never owned a Mac, pun intended).

    Roger

  • Kell Smith

    August 10, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    I’ve started into the Douglas tutorials and they are proving to be very helpful. I did some of the Kevin tutorials the other day and really liked them as well.
    Finally am starting to make some progress…..

  • John Pale

    August 10, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    If you really wanna blow your mind, try FCPX and Lightworks next.
    Also very different than FCP7.

    You really need to forget what you think you know from FCP legacy and immerse yourself in whatever new tool you decide to go with…if you want to achieve proficiency. Even Premiere Pro has enough differences to get you into unexpected trouble.

  • Kell Smith

    August 10, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    LOL sometimes I even find imovie confusing – but have not cared enough to spend more than five minutes in it, so maybe that’s why. =)

    As for Avid…
    LOVING the filmstrip track and the B key. and love the keyboard-focused approach.

    The tutorials address a different method of editing than I am used to – I am used to dragging a clip into the timeline, cutting it up, and making my choices from there. It’s an easy way to get rid of the garbage by just dragging it to the end of the timeline, or deleting the clips.

    Not sure how I would keep all my clips/scenes arranged any other way but am open to new methods/suggestions. I guess with markers in the source clip, once I figure out how to add them in Avid, and maybe could just color code the markers for the good scenes?

    It’s probably just as easy to timeline edit in Avid but I am open to whatever methods are efficient.

  • John Pale

    August 10, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    [Kell Smith] “I am used to dragging a clip into the timeline, cutting it up, and making my choices from there. It’s an easy way to get rid of the garbage by just dragging it to the end of the timeline, or deleting the clips”

    I don’t do this personally, but you can do this in Avid with a little trick. Just drop a garbage clip or a title at the end of your sequence and insert a bunch of filler, way more than your intended sequence length (source monitor menu) before it. Now you have a lot of empty space to play with.

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