James Barr
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Aye, hard drives are so underrated when it comes to video editing by most people. You’re not going to gain hardly anything by going to XP; and maybe nothing whatsoever.
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First off, your available memory being around 3GB isn’t because of Microsoft, it’s because you’re running a 32-bit operating system. Any operating system – linux, Mac OS X, Windows, etc. that is 32-bit is going to have the same limitation. You need to use a 64-bit version of Windows, so go buy one if you want more than ~3GB of RAM available.
As for the severe performance degradation…interesting. Are you sure you’re doing identical comparisons to compare performance? The exact same project file exporting the exact same settings? Depending on how large the media you’re working with is, it could be hard drive-related if you’re running everything off one drive and encoding to it on the W7 machine and not on the XP one.
I noticed no degradation in performance going to Windows 7. The opposite, actually; my encoding times sped up. There must be a reason why you’re seeing a significant performance hit. Try uninstalling security software and stuff if hard drives aren’t the reason.
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Workstation cards (like Quadro from NVIDIA and FireGL from ATI) are only worth it if you have some specific reason for needing virtually guaranteed reliability in terms of the software driver, and better/easier tech support in the event that you have a problem. That’s all you’re paying for over a regular 3D graphics card.
A side note about the Mac, you’ll get better performance for less money by going with a PC. Always.
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Part of your problem might be that you’re only using 3GB of your RAM. You need to use a 64-bit operating system to use more than 3GB of RAM, so go buy a copy of Windows 7 x64.
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Installing codec packs on your computer often messes up the codecs Premiere Pro uses. If you have any sort of codec pack installed, get rid of it and restart the computer and you’ll probably have better luck.
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As long as you’re running 64-bit and have a processor with more than 1 core, CS4 can use up to 4GB of RAM per core, so no, it’s not pointless having more than 4GB…
I see you bought PC5300 (667MHz) speed RAM. That is almost certainly your problem. Most DDR2 systems are PC6400 (800MHz) so if your existing RAM was PC6400, and you added PC5300 RAM, your computer has to force the existing RAM to go down to the PC5300 speed, since no computer can run RAM modules at different speeds. Return your memory and get some PC6400 speed stuff; also, getting ECC RAM is pointless unless your existing RAM is also ECC.
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Are they all in one folder? Random problems can happen when you have a ton of files in one folder. Before even opening Premiere Pro, make a bunch of folders for them and put no more than say 50-100 files per folder. If it’s already that way, or if this doesn’t fix it…then strange. Something else is likely causing the problem besides virtue of a large number of files. (don’t regret going with a PC, either; it’s the better choice overall, mainly for performance reasons)
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You need to keep your RAM increments properly matched to still be using tri-channel RAM. This means you have to go from 6GB to 12GB; you can’t do 9GB, you’ll actually have poorer performance than 6GB if you do. Go with 12GB. As for the video card, it really depends on what you have to spend. If not a whole lot, (like a couple-three hundred for the video card itself) then go with a regular 3D card like an ATI Radeon HD 5770 ($150-$160) or Radeon HD 5850 ($300) but if you can drop some serious coin, like $600+, then go with a workstation graphics card. (the Fire line by ATI, like FirePro, FireGL, etc. or the Quadro line by NVIDIA)
If you still want to have good gaming performance on this machine, not JUST video editing performance, you’ll want to get a high-end 3D card not a workstation one.
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Tyler – click Start, then click Control Panel, then on the upper right there’s a menu that says Category. (or possibly Large Icons, or Small Icons) Click that menu, change it to Small Icons, then click on System. Now on what you just opened, find where it says System Type: and it will say 32-bit Operating System or 64-bit Operating System. Which is it, 32-bit or 64-bit? If it’s 32-bit, you need to reinstall Windows with the 64-bit version. (your copy of Windows 7 includes two discs, one is 32-bit and one is 64-bit)
32-bit operating systems, whether they be Windows, OS X for Macs, Linux, etc. can only use just over 3 gigabytes of RAM; so the extra 5 you have are sitting there doing absolutely nothing if this is the case.
If you ARE running the 64-bit version, then as the first reply said, it must be either because you’re not running in dual channel mode (cuts the overall max speed of your RAM in half) or your newer RAM has slower timings, and the RAM you had before is forced to match it. Most likely, you’re running a 32-bit version of Windows, though; and there’s no way to convert it to 64-bit, you have to format and install Windows from scratch to get to 64-bit.
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I’ve had the same problem working with H.264 files with a .m2ts extension. (along with different problems in other pro-level video editing programs) If that’s what you’re working with…I’ve found no real solution except re-encoding the file before you even start working with it.