[Gary Alan]

Andy,

If you cannot understand unions and their workers who have agreements and contracts, then you should not accept any job that has a union person on the crew. You cannot dictate that the union person should go or break his contract because of the problems you are having. It is up to the employer to deal with any situation that may evolve during the day at work. Are you that boss or employer that is hiring the union people and “paying” them?

If everyone thinks like you, then maybe the next job will make you and the whole crew work for 15 hours straight without having any breaks. Maybe then you will start to feel why humans need certain things in the workplace. What is your answer? Take drugs for extra energy and stamina? Like pro atheletes and the phony wrestlers?

I am not going to discusss whether it is right or wrong what a union guy does. It is not up to us. It is reality and you need to learn and deal with reality.

Gary

[Gary Alan]

I have to disagree with handing out gold stars to people who do not see the whole picture and try to spin everything to make their view just okay for this time. They all add up, Tim. Oner today, 100 tomorrow, millions next month. Get all the facts and make intelligent decisions, unlike all of our politicians in DC.

Gary

[Gary Alan]

Andy,
You and some others keep talking about yourwself and one or two ther people. We are talking about the big picture with millions of people in all sorts of employment. I speak of facts from years of research, not one job with an old union guy. And, an editor is a far cry from a grunt unloading a truck. Everyone know an editor spent his early years working for free, cheap, cahrity, paying dues. Then they spend many years perfecting their skills that a school will never be able to teach. All those years helping employers make fantastic products and winning awards. You miss the pointv that 50+ people are being “kept out” of any employmnet these days at tremendous numbers. I estinate over 10 million across the country, maybe more. So when you mom and pop become bankrupt and can’t find work and show up at your door for you to keep them alive, maybe you will understand what we are talking about. But I somehow have the feeling you make this conversation just abouy you again and deny that will ever happen. It
s not just about you. Have some reasoning, compassion and forsight for the all the people, the country and the world because eventually anything will come back and have an impact on you. Try to relate to the market crash many years ago. If the economy falls down, you won’t get work anymore and be in the sam soup line.

Your little example could go like this-
Employer ad-Looking for young and hungry recent graduate to do entry level work for low pay. MUST have 5 years pro experience with 3 major credits, MUST know FCP, DVD Studio Pro and all Adobe products. Great opportunity to work with award winning people and be able to build your demo reel.

50+ person gets completely ignored even though they can do all those jobs and he needs the job to pay rent and feed his family. There are many people in their 50’s who can unload a truck just as fast if not faster than some kids. You, Andy, have a very narrow view and opinion.

Gary

[Gary Alan]

Bob,
google the model number.
https://www.globalmediapro.com/video/products/Sony_J30_SDI_Compact_Universal_Player–1162.html

I would assume you just get DV 25 and I would assume FCP would treat it as a DV deck on capturing. So it’s more of an offline edit situation, unless you want to final render in DV.

Gary

[Gary Alan]

The Sony J-30/SDI handles Digibeta tapes and it has a firewire port for DV based editing on a NLE.

Gary

[Gary Alan]

Hello John,

At first I thought you were just defending the original poster. But now I do see you trying to expand on the subject and possibly learn something more on the subject. I do feel that you are only seeing things from just your view, and being 33, limits your experience to the real world on this issue. I mean no offense to you, but maybe having to walk a mile in one’s shoes is required to really understand the whole picture. In other words, it is probably not affecting you at this point in your life.

On the other hand, I am speaking about facts that concerns everybody of all ages. It is not about me. It is becoming a social problem in large volumes. The occasional ad posted was fine. But I assure you that the facts are that most employers are now posting jobs as lo/no/deferred, interns, assistants, opportunity to build reels, acquire a credit and work with an award winning person. All excuses to get free labor and higher personal profits. And they ask you to own the gear with higher skills. Bottom line… employers are exploiting people to work for free or low pay. The COW only gets a few ads per week and most are pro and legit. Take any weekday and look at Craiglist, Mandy, Production Hub, Monster, etc. For example, Craigslist LA ha an average of 60 ads each day. Many are pervs looking for models. They have model agencies who supply pro models if you need a model. Las Vegas and Atlanta now have a large amount of ads flagged an pulled because of spams and pervs.

Another fact I have seen is employers showing up in the forums every few months, posting again to fill a position because they took the cheap route with a kyoung newbie. Employers have told me in interviews that the some young people were fabricating demo reels and then not being able to handle the job after being hired. I have reports on how they always have eyes on greener pastures while working at their cuurent job for little pay. This translates to not working at being focused 100% each day on their current job. One employer told me how his young editor quit midstream on a major project so he could hitchhike around Europe with his friend. The employer was missing deadlines from an employer who did not understand loyalty or care about his reputation. They lack responsibility. An older pro would never do this. He usually has a family to provide for. The employer usually finds out it costs them more in the long run because of the lack of experience and the slower speed of finishing a job on time.

I could go on with hundreds of examples. I am not against young workers or interns. I was one jsut as you were in the past. I am only pointing out from seven years of daily experience on reading a dozen pro forums each day that this social problem is escalating.

My research and doc is not about me or editors. It’s about all ages because it will affect everyone in some way, eventually. There are areas I have not spoken of, such as the lack of government concern and help. Laws on age discrimination are not being enforced. Lawyers are not accepting age discrimination cases indicating the government will not back them and it’s hard to prove and win a case.

I do not for second believe the original poster meant anything different than what he said. He is one of thousands on a daily basis doing this same scam for lo/no deferred. His subject line says FCP editor, good pay, but then it gets down to an assistant and a credit. If someone cannot spend the money and pay people for the hard earned skills and experience, then they should not be in business. I can’t tell you how many job ads have said “work with an award winning director”. If he/she is that successful, let them work for free and pay your workers today. I know, there are exceptions where all the crew works for free. But usually one person receives the profit and benefits from free labor.

The problem is not young idiots or old farts. It’s the vast majority of people jumping into the business and behaving like video pimps. Treating skilled professionals like whores and while they pocket all the benefits. Greed.

Let’s assume this all is acceptable. Now imagine your clients asking you to do work for them for free or minimum wage. Maybe you will accept that because you are hungry. Imagine all businesses in the world behaving in this manner. The grocery store will not give you food on a deferred basis. The landlord doesn’t want you demo reel or care about a credit in a movie you have earned.

I suggest the COW open another Calf forum for people to beg for jobs and people to ask for interns, lo/no/deferred and keep the original forum as professional and paid fairly. I suggest everyone boycott these employers who are exploiting everyone. An intern has to get “credits at their school” in return for their labor and on the job training. Not just be free labor at the benefit of an employer.

Most of us were brought up with the teachings to study hard, work hard, work your way up, retire at “65” and live off of pensions, savings and social security. Now it seems they want people to retire at 50 and struggle to live because you will not be allowed back in the workplace, social security is almost gone and pensions were cut short from being forced into a buyout at 50 so your employer can avoid, higher salaries, health care, paid vacations and lower your pension benefits. Most people build up their pension in the last fifiteen years of working. Watch the news and se how all the auto companies are bailing out and forcing people to retire early.

In the past, people usually died when they reached 50. In this modern worldvwe live to 90 and 100. What will most people do to survive for the next 40 years or so if they are not allowed to be employed? Government won’t help. The medical system will not help in America. Social Security has been robbed by other agencies and will not be there in the near future. If you are 20 or 33 today, do not be surprised as to how your future turns out. At least give me credit for saying I warned you.

Best regards,
Gary

[Gary Alan]

Vegas is better with avi, but can also handle mov. Don not use DVCproHD or the new Prores. Cineform now has a beta version for Mac. That might work good for your Vegas editing. Many people use Cineform for Vegas on a PC.

Gary

[Gary Alan]

Chuck,
Thanx. That works.
Gary

[Gary Alan]

RP
Get WhatSize
https://www.id-design.com/software/whatsize/

shows instantly all folders and files on a drive anf the size. Largest files in GB are listed first in red. Delete or move to a new drive. empty trash when done.

Gary

[Gary Alan]

Thanx guys. BW, I will “share” the info with you on tip 4. You can get an express slot card for esata that is low cost and add up to 10 ext drives for a RAID if desired. Keep in mind the bandwidth limits on that bus, though. I do not remember what it is offhand. Best you can do with a notebook at this time.

Gary