Eric Goldstein
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Hi Reloaded,
Thanks for the thought, but I’m looking for something different. I need to a way to take a long series of clips and automate placing them in the render queue using the name of the clip as the name in the output module and using the timeline in out for the render in out.
Colin mentioned doing this via scripting. Can anyone point me toward a resource that would help me figure out how to script this?
Thanks,
Eric
Eric Goldstein
Giraffe Film Company
Los Angeles
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Thanks for the info. How would I go about scripting or learning how to
script something like this?Thanks again,
Eric
Eric Goldstein
Giraffe Film Company
Los Angeles
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I’ve been testing a number of products to up rez a film I’m working on. The best product I’ve found is called Algosuite from Algolith (www.algolith.com). Less expensive is IHD from Red Giant Software. It’s also possible to do an excellent up Rez within the Cineform codec with their latest release (www.cineform.com). Algolith though more expensive has some excellent noise reduction and anti-aliasing. It also allows numerous scaling, frame rate conversions as well as de-interlacing and interlacing.
Eric
Eric Goldstein
Giraffe Film Company
Los Angeles
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Hey,
Thanks very much. That’s exactly what I was looking for.
Eric
Eric Goldstein
Giraffe Film Company
Los Angeles
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Thanks Steve the CC Ball Action effect worked perfectlly.
Eric
Eric Goldstein
Giraffe Film Company
Los Angeles
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Thanks for the temporal filtering tip.
Eric
Eric Goldstein
Giraffe Film Company
Los Angeles
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Thanks for the Grain Surgery info. I’ve used the AE plug in extensively. It works as well as any noise reducer I’ve found. There’s always a trade off between reducing grain and keeping detail. The former Grain Surgery now AE plug in helps retain some detail by creating a map of lines from the image that it composites on top of the grain reduced image. This helps retain some detail, by adding an unsharp mask you can further retain detail. But, in heavy grain situations it can be a real battle to retain detail and an image that doesn’t look too plastic or unreal.
I’ve recently tried Algolith’s Algosuite. Their product has a good noise reducer and excellent anti-aliasing, but if you thought the Grain Surgery/AE plug-in had long renders, Algosuit makes their renders seem short by comparison. Also, Algosuite’s tools work almost exclusively on progressive frames, so you must de-interlace interlaced footage and re-interlace if you need the footage interlaced; all this makes render times even longer.
Algo suite also has excellent up rezzing (primarily, I think, because of its excellent anti-aliasing and frame conversion. However, I haven’t had good results from their frame rate conversion. The default settings for 60i to 24p resulted in very choppy motion. Their are controls, but with the long render times, finding the right settings has been difficult due to time constraints.
DV Film’s Maker provides excellent 60i to 24 conversion at the default settings, but doesn’t have the extensive de-noise, anti-aliasing and up rez capabilities as Algosuite. I’ve also tried Magic Bullet and its companion up rez software IHD. But Magic Bullet’s capabilities didn’t appear as great as Algosuite.
Regards,
Eric
Eric Goldstein
Giraffe Film Company
Los Angeles
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Your welcome, Jeffery.
Render times vary significantly depending on exactly what you want to do and what computer you’re working on. Six or seven seconds will not be a significant render (I’m currently working on feature and the sequences are much longer). I would guess that six or seven seconds will render in twenty to thirty minutes.
I forgot to mention that Algosuite is very shakey on the Mac, right now – that is, it seems to have lots of bugs. I’m running it with AE 6.5. I’m not sure if it works with 7; I seem to remember that they recommended using 6.5. You’ll have to check with them. You cannot use this plug in with anything else and I wouldn’t use it with precomps although the manual says you can. On the Mac you have to make sure you’ve set it up correctly or it will often crash. The product is much more stable on the PC. Also, if you’re applying other effects to your footage, I’ve found it was best to run the raw footage through Algosuite and render it, then bring the rendered footage back into AE and apply whatever other effects you want to use. This makes the best use of Algosuite’s denoise and antialiasing capabilities.
Eric
Eric Goldstein
Giraffe Film Company
Los Angeles
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Hi Jeffrey,
I’ve been testing various plug-ins in terms of their de-noise, anti-aliasing, up-rezzing and frame rate conversion. So far, I haven’t found anything better than Algosuite’s product in terms of removing noise and particular anti-aliasing, both of which have a great deal to do with how product will up rez. Predictably,
Algosuite has the best up-rez I’ve seen. I haven’t had the best results with Algosuite in terms of converting from 60i to 23.976p. So far it doesn’t seem to handle movement either within the frame or for instance, a zoom, very well. DVfilm’s software does an excellent job out of the box for conversion from 60i to 23.976, but doesn’t have the de-noise, anti-aliasing, etc. that Algosuite does.In terms of use, Algosuite seems complex to set up at first, but isn’t if you remember that the parameters you use to set it up in your footage interpolation, comp and some attributes in the plug-in itself will be set to what the footage will be (pixel size, frame rate, frame size, etc.) rather than what your original footage actually is. The default settings seem to be pretty good in most cases, except perhaps for frame rate conversion. However, renders are quite long depending on exactly what you’re doing and testing different settings is difficult for this reason.
So, to answer your question, I think Algolith is a very good product, perhaps the best for certain uses and I think you can get some excellent results quickly – in terms of learning curve, but the mysteries of whether the product can do even better or whether its conversion from 60i to 23.976p can be better will take some work and time to figure out.
Eric
Eric Goldstein
Giraffe Film Company
Los Angeles
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Excuse me,
I’m sorry, AE is RGB color space.
Eric
Eric Goldstein
Giraffe Film Company
Los Angeles
eric@giraffefilm.com