Up Res Plug In for interlaced footage?

[Mylenium]

Digital Anarchy’s Resizer 2 has built-in de-interlacing, but I don’t see a problem with the others either, you just need to add a de-interalcing plugin before the sizing plugin.

Mylenium

[Pour Myl

[Eric Goldstein]

Thanks, Mylenium.

I’m currently running test with Algosuite and getting very good results thought the renders are quite long. I
just wanted to know what the options were.

Thanks again,

Eric

Eric Goldstein
Giraffe Film Company
Los Angeles
eric@giraffefilm.com

[Jeffrey Di lullo]

Eric,

I am looking into alogsuite and am curious about the learning curve. We have a project that needs a few shots to be reframed(read enlarged) but we are on a tight deadline (about a week left). Is Algosuite something that I have to tweak and fiddle with for months or is is relatively easy to pick up. I have tried Resizer 2 and instant HD, both of which have been quite easy to use, but I am not all that thrilled with the results (halo’s around objects.) An insight that you can give me would be quite appreciated.

Jeffrey Di Lullo
BBC&S Video Communicaitons

[Eric Goldstein]

Hi Jeffrey,

I’ve been testing various plug-ins in terms of their de-noise, anti-aliasing, up-rezzing and frame rate conversion. So far, I haven’t found anything better than Algosuite’s product in terms of removing noise and particular anti-aliasing, both of which have a great deal to do with how product will up rez. Predictably,
Algosuite has the best up-rez I’ve seen. I haven’t had the best results with Algosuite in terms of converting from 60i to 23.976p. So far it doesn’t seem to handle movement either within the frame or for instance, a zoom, very well. DVfilm’s software does an excellent job out of the box for conversion from 60i to 23.976, but doesn’t have the de-noise, anti-aliasing, etc. that Algosuite does.

In terms of use, Algosuite seems complex to set up at first, but isn’t if you remember that the parameters you use to set it up in your footage interpolation, comp and some attributes in the plug-in itself will be set to what the footage will be (pixel size, frame rate, frame size, etc.) rather than what your original footage actually is. The default settings seem to be pretty good in most cases, except perhaps for frame rate conversion. However, renders are quite long depending on exactly what you’re doing and testing different settings is difficult for this reason.

So, to answer your question, I think Algolith is a very good product, perhaps the best for certain uses and I think you can get some excellent results quickly – in terms of learning curve, but the mysteries of whether the product can do even better or whether its conversion from 60i to 23.976p can be better will take some work and time to figure out.

Eric

Eric Goldstein
Giraffe Film Company
Los Angeles
eric@giraffefilm.com

[Jeffrey Di lullo]

Eric,

WOW! thanks for the quick response. Very insightful. Both shots that I have to reframe are around 5 seconds each. I would imagine that the render times shouldn’t be all that long. Would you give me a ball park on render time per second of footage? We have both AE 6 and 7 in house. I know that Algosuite works with 6, but I am unsure if it will work with 7. Have you tried it on 7 yet?

Thank you again,

Jeffrey Di Lullo
BBC&S Video Communicaitons

[Eric Goldstein]

Your welcome, Jeffery.

Render times vary significantly depending on exactly what you want to do and what computer you’re working on. Six or seven seconds will not be a significant render (I’m currently working on feature and the sequences are much longer). I would guess that six or seven seconds will render in twenty to thirty minutes.

I forgot to mention that Algosuite is very shakey on the Mac, right now – that is, it seems to have lots of bugs. I’m running it with AE 6.5. I’m not sure if it works with 7; I seem to remember that they recommended using 6.5. You’ll have to check with them. You cannot use this plug in with anything else and I wouldn’t use it with precomps although the manual says you can. On the Mac you have to make sure you’ve set it up correctly or it will often crash. The product is much more stable on the PC. Also, if you’re applying other effects to your footage, I’ve found it was best to run the raw footage through Algosuite and render it, then bring the rendered footage back into AE and apply whatever other effects you want to use. This makes the best use of Algosuite’s denoise and antialiasing capabilities.

Eric

Eric Goldstein
Giraffe Film Company
Los Angeles
eric@giraffefilm.com