[Douglas Spotted eagle]

I’d like anyone to please identify any shipping, purchaseable AVCHD camcorder capable of recording 1920 x 1080 pixels in November of 2007. The spec is capable of recording 1920 x 1080, just as the bitrate can go as high as 24Mbps at camera.
But no one was doing this at the time.

Sony announced the CX12 in January 08′ at CES and it shipped in June. Panasonic was not doing 1920 at the time, nor was Canon, Mitsubishi, Samsung, Sanyo, nor anyone else.
What is a spec value and what is reality is the difference between actually working with the format (and we’ve been working with AVCHD since the first released beta units) and measurebation. Sure, it could have been argued that AVCHD was 1920 x 1080 back in 2007, just like it could have been argued that XDCAM would only be 4:2:0 and 35Mbps. Or that HDCAM would remain the standard. Or that MPEG4 would be overtaken by VC1.
How many years did Panasonic piss on MPEG before joining the MPEG chorus? Did they not know what they were talking about for all those years too?

Further, at the time, broadcasters such as Dish and others were only shipping 1440 x 1080i or 720p in mpeg2 format.
This too, has changed.
As has a lot of broadcast tech in the past 18 months.

It’s a damnable shame I didn’t answer one of your posts; on December 11 of 2007 I was in the Middle East and not answering much of anything. Believe it or not, I have a business and life outside of the Internet, and it’s sorta hard to feel obligated to view every single one of a couple thousand posts per week. I do my best; sorry it doesn’t meet your approval. Request a refund.

It’s absurd when a very old thread is regurged as a “he doesn’t know what he’s talking about” vs “products have changed since this was posted.”
Hmm…Alexander Bell once felt the telephone would never be found in every home, too. I guess he was an idiot too.

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[Douglas Spotted eagle]

Umm…
Look at the date of the posts. So…let’s regurge my posts here on the COW from 1999 when I talked about Pinnacle, Matrox, or even Canopus cards vs OHCI cards. None of that is relevant either.
Back then HDV was the only affordable option, no cam was recording anything larger than 1440 x 108 (including HDCAM, the premiere option at the time).
Additionally, there are other options for HD rendering in Vegas (and other tools) that allow for 1920 vs 1440 for BD. Resolution options are there; your “current” post is incorrect. Do you not know what you’re talking about, or is it that you choose to not post complete information?

it’s one thing to regurge an out-of-date post.
It’s quite another to be a jacka$$ claiming someone doesn’t know what they’re talking about based on the context of an out of date post.

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[Douglas Spotted eagle]

Since your source is HDV, watching on an HD monitor will obviously be the best solution.
But…
you’re rendering to an SD resolution, then upscaling that resolution to HD.
The SD will be softer than HD no matter what, when viewed on an HD monitor. Couple that with the difference in source resolution compared to SD resolution, it’s going to be softer anyway.
So…
Render to one of the AVCHD templates in Vegas, assuming your DVD player can pass it properly to the HD monitor. This way, you’ll see little drop in quality.

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[Douglas Spotted eagle]

Most any HD post house can print this to HDCAM tape.
You can render your project to uncompressed 4:2:2, or you can render to XDCAM 4:2:2 in Vegas in the IMX templates. Whether they’re using FCP, Avid, or Vegas with SDI output, it won’t make a difference. They’ll be able to print, or should be.

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[Douglas Spotted eagle]

not sure if you mean “XDCam” masters (in which case they’re not tape?)

DVCam? Most any deck out there from Sony handles DVCam
BetaCam? Most any post house will dupe to Beta, although it’s a mostly-dead format.

I’m not familiar with the format “SDCam” as an acquisition format, but have seen references to PDA’s?

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[Douglas Spotted eagle]

Me personally, I’ve been jumping for joy since Fox fired their entertainment reporter for viewing pirated downloads on his computer, and have only yesterday signed a digital petition to have him criminally charged.

I hope very much that a wedding videographer gets busted. I’m aware of at least 100 take-down notices on Youtube, FWIW, and aware of at least 6 accounts on YouTube that have been disabled for copyright violations.

It’s coming. And the time for clemency, if extended, will likely be very short. This isn’t a subject people are no longer familiar with as they were back in 2005 when I wrote the copyright article for NARAS.

Douglas Spotted Eagle
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[Douglas Spotted eagle]

The Trimmer and Explorer plays in Vegas are unbuffered playback, and unscaled playback.
When you put a clip on the timeline, Vegas scales the footage for optimal playback speed and relevant display in your preview window. this is why Vegas allows you to play back at full, half, quarter scale of original. This is less of an issue with faster computers, but putting your playback to Best/Full and unchecking the scale feature in the Preview window often makes the issue you’re seeing go away.
when you render, you’ll see the same quality as you see in the unbuffered playback

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[Douglas Spotted eagle]

should help?
Ignore the template description, but rather work with the values I’ve inserted.
Should work fine for you.

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[Douglas Spotted eagle]

Mp4 at approx 1.6Kpbs assuming audio is 48k stereo, you could make it mono 32 and save some bandwidth, maybe get up to 2Kbps

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[Douglas Spotted eagle]

still about 1GB for about 10mins, but thats fine, I’m making a dvd and I think a standard uncompressed dvd is about 25GB, then it gets compressed to fit a 4.7GB disc.

this is a little confusing.
What is your source format?
Clarify that your final delivery is on DVD for playback in a DVD player?

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