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  • Music theft

    Posted by Donald Gibson on March 9, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    Music theft. I have a question or two about this subject. Know this has been discussed but I need a straight out answer . I have put together a slideshow of a trip that my family and a friend took together.

    I have not added music to the show as of yet. I am told by friends and family that it ok to use the music of a CD that I have bought to add to my show. I need to know if this a true statement. It does not sound right to me. This show will be used only by my friend and I . We are not using this DVD, commercially (sp) in any way.

    Also I have been asked to do a wedding. They have their own music they want to use. It is on a CD they have bought. Would it be alright to use this CD for their wedding?

    The main thing I am not afraid of getting caught, doing this, but its just not right if it not legal. I do have to live with myself.

    Thanks
    Don

    Music theft. I have a question or two about this subject. Know this has been discussed but I need a straight out answer . I have put together a slideshow of a trip that my family and a friend took together.

    I have not added music to the show as of yet. I am told by friends and family that it ok to use the music of a CD that I have bought to add to my show. I need to know if this a true statement. It does not sound right to me. This show will be used only by my friend and I . We are not using this DVD, commercially (sp) in any way.

    Also I have been asked to do a wedding. They have their own music they want to use. It is on a CD they have bought. Would it be alright to use this CD for their wedding?

    The main thing I am not afraid of getting caught, doing this, but its just not right if it not legal. I do have to live with myself.

    Thanks
    Don

    Douglas Spotted eagle replied 17 years, 1 month ago 7 Members · 8 Replies
  • 8 Replies
  • Steve Rhoden

    March 9, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    By all Rights, using the music off a CD that you have purchased
    in a commercial production is basically illegal…
    But dont sweat it…if its just gonna be used by you and
    your friends thats ok.
    Its also ok to use the music from the CD your clients have
    bought for use in their wedding ceremony.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Creative Arts Director and Film Maker.
    Portfolio at:
    http://www.youtube.com/hentys

  • Douglas Spotted eagle

    March 9, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    Its also ok to use the music from the CD your clients have
    bought for use in their wedding ceremony.

    No, it is not. It’s a criminal act as well as a civil act, and may be prosecuted as such. It’s replication and synch of a copyrighted master recording.

    In fact, the editor is more liable than the client in this particular case, because the editor is expected to know better.

    Google “My Voice, My Choice: Copyright Caveats”

    Douglas Spotted Eagle
    VASST

    Certified Sony Vegas Trainer
    Aerial Camera/Instructor

  • Donald Gibson

    March 9, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    Many thanks to both of you. I will look at the web sight.
    Why does my name show up in red and not blue like other posters?

    Don

    Music theft. I have a question or two about this subject. Know this has been discussed but I need a straight out answer . I have put together a slideshow of a trip that my family and a friend took together.

    I have not added music to the show as of yet. I am told by friends and family that it ok to use the music of a CD that I have bought to add to my show. I need to know if this a true statement. It does not sound right to me. This show will be used only by my friend and I . We are not using this DVD, commercially (sp) in any way.

    Also I have been asked to do a wedding. They have their own music they want to use. It is on a CD they have bought. Would it be alright to use this CD for their wedding?

    The main thing I am not afraid of getting caught, doing this, but its just not right if it not legal. I do have to live with myself.

    Thanks
    Don

  • Enrique Orozco

    March 9, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    What kind of answer can be given for that kind of client (the one that wants on his video exactly THAT piece of music bought by him) ???

    … if the music from the CD goes on a video for a couple of people, let’s say the wedding (it is not a documentary or something that you’re going to sell or make public..) then, who can do that kind of job ? just an “unauthorized” editor maybe ???

    just a thought…

    regards

    Enrique Orozco R.
    iDEA DigitalVideoStudio

  • John Rofrano

    March 9, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    > I am told by friends and family that it ok to use the music of a CD that I have bought to add to my show. I need to know if this a true statement.

    Yes, that’s a true statement. You can use any music you’ve obtained legally on your own projects for your own enjoyment. What you can’t do is give that to someone else or show it in a public place. But any music for use at home is perfectly legal.

    > Also I have been asked to do a wedding. They have their own music they want to use. It is on a CD they have bought. Would it be alright to use this CD for their wedding?

    As Douglas pointed out, that is not legal. The reason is because any time you incorporate someone’s work into your own, you have made a derivative work and need to secure the rights to do so. When you purchase a music CD you are purchasing the rights to listen to it. You are not purchasing any rights to create derivative works from it. In the case of music and video, there is a separate license for syncing music to video that you must obtain. Then you’ll need another license to copy it and distribute it.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Ron Lindeboom

    March 10, 2009 at 2:18 am

    [Donald Gibson] “Why does my name show up in red and not blue like other posters?”

    Everyone’s name shows up in red when a user looks at their own posts. It was done to help users see where they have been involved in discussions, etc.

    Users asked for it and we added it.

    Ron Lindeboom

  • Stephen Mann

    April 9, 2009 at 4:08 am

    As Spot and others have said, any use other than your personal entertainment would be a copyright violation subject to civil and criminal processes.

    However…

    I have asked videographers for the past few years if anyone has ever been busted or personally know someone who was busted for copyright violation. In the wedding video area, it’s been a big zero. In corporate videography I found one videographer who received a take-down notice because he was stupid enough to use popular rock music on his web demo, and one who knows a client (not his) who had to pay big bucks for licensing a piece of music in a corporate video. This one has to be discounted because it comes from third-hand information. (I am only looking for first and second-hand data).

    That doesn’t mean that one day the Copyright Cops won’t take down a few wedding videographers to make some examples.

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • Douglas Spotted eagle

    April 9, 2009 at 4:19 am

    Me personally, I’ve been jumping for joy since Fox fired their entertainment reporter for viewing pirated downloads on his computer, and have only yesterday signed a digital petition to have him criminally charged.

    I hope very much that a wedding videographer gets busted. I’m aware of at least 100 take-down notices on Youtube, FWIW, and aware of at least 6 accounts on YouTube that have been disabled for copyright violations.

    It’s coming. And the time for clemency, if extended, will likely be very short. This isn’t a subject people are no longer familiar with as they were back in 2005 when I wrote the copyright article for NARAS.

    Douglas Spotted Eagle
    VASST

    Certified Sony Vegas Trainer
    Aerial Camera/Instructor

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