David Shirey
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Actually that’s not entirely true. It’s real easy to drop youtube videos into Vegas, the problem is sometimes you get mixed results. You can use a site like https://www.keepvid.com to save an mp4 file and then just drop them into Vegas. Every once in a while I’ll get a bunch of green pixels and errors, in which case I use Sorenson Squeeze to recompress the mp4 which fixes the problem for me. Steve is right that Vegas will work better if you dump it to a DV formatted avi or quicktime though. It’s handy when people want to share clips and things but please be mindful of any copyright issues.
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[Mike Kujbida] “Better yet, get an i7 processor and watch the kitchen sink do the editing for you 🙂
Yes, it’s that much faster than a quad core.”Well to be fair, the i7’s are quad-core cpu’s.
I find anandtech’s benchmark comparison page to be pretty handy.
https://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?b=2Under benchmark they’ve got x264 and divx encodes. The i7 965 is still $1000 on it’s own. I’ve never bought a top of the line cpu in my life. You end up paying double for something 5% faster, then a few months later they drop the price just to make you feel silly. the 940 and 920 are more my price range.
I got off topic though. His original question was is he safe with a sony or dell laptop or should he have a pc built. My answer would be that if you don’t need to edit in the field, got for a pc tower. You’ll get a lot more bang for your buck than a laptop. But obviously if being mobile can in any way help you get the job done, you’d have a hard time doing that with a tower.
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I’m gonna agree with enrique here. We back up our SxS cards to external hard drives and then import either to Vegas or FCP from those hard drives when the project is actually ready to start editing. Obviously I can import directly from the card if the project is ready immediately. The MXF is just rewrapping the same actual video data that’s in the mp4 file, it’s not converting every frame to some other format, so the time it takes is pretty much just like copying the actual data. As such, the time it takes to copy a 16gig card would depend on the speed of the source and of your hard drives. I can tell you this much, if you’re shooting on an xdcam EX camera, Vegas is a darn good option for an NLE.
As for what I don’t like so much about Vegas… Third party support and overall popularity I guess. I wish Boris had as seamless integration with Vegas as I enjoyed back in the Media 100 days. When you talk to other videographers/editors, a lot of them don’t even know about Vegas. All they know is Final Cut and maybe Premiere. I’m sure it’s just my paranoia, but I don’t like people thinking I’m not a “real” editor just because I can build my own PC from parts and buy the editing software for half of what they spent on their Mac.
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As odd magne said, sending youtube a 1280×720 video is good, even if the sides are black, because then youtube will allow a “watch in HD” feature to let those viewing it see the best possible quality. I don’t know why youtube is giving you a hard time because I’ve had good luck with mp4’s, but you also might want to try Windows Media Video. There’s a template for 720p at 30fps with square pixels that goes right into youtube just fine.
Vegas should be able to do this all in one step. You shouldn’t need to export avi’s then have quicktime recompress it all.
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I think Stephen was thinking of Jim’s reply that a few clients he knew got in trouble for it. I do a lot of social videography and we’re happy to use music that the clients own and bring to us. As you said, it’s essentially a legal “backup” of material that they own that they aren’t distributing. The only time I recall putting a video on youtube was of a bride and groom’s first dance where the band played a two song medley, but I imagine wedding bands are allowed to play pop songs? If they aren’t then that’s a whole other problem entirely. We’re very careful not to use copyrighted material in our demo material or for any corporate clients. I’ve gotten some pretty nice music from the DeWolfe library.
I know Warner Brothers has their music pulled from youtube videos, but currently most companies are letting 14 year olds get away with posting their skateboard videos to youtube with a Greenday song on it. I don’t personally have a moral obligation to that, and if the artists want to chase down their fans then I guess the market will decide if that’s a great strategy or not.
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[Jill Simpson] “- If a 13 GB per hour DV file is compressed, what do you call a 350 MB per hour mp4 file?”
I’d call it very compressed, and not a source I’d want to edit from. All these codecs floating around can be pretty confusing. Especially when clients request a certain format not knowing the details. Like when they ask for an mp4, but don’t tell you what they’re using it for, what resolution/bitrate they need it.
For standard definition editing, DV is pretty universal. While I don’t remember if I’ve transferred avi captured DV footage into FCP, I know I’ve transferred FCP captured mov files into Vegas with no problem. If you can just get all your footage in DV format and edit in a project set to DV, I would think everything should work fine. If it gives you problems with having too many clips, and there’s no cost efficient way to improve the computer, could you try just making a second Vegas program and putting the remained of the clips in there, and then just alt+tab between them?
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Thanks Steve, that Squirlz app worked perfectly.
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Sort of a late reply, but I figured I’d chime in. If you’ve already exported your EX-1 footage through ClipBrowser and are just keeping and backing up mxf files, I assume what you want is the ability to simply double-click on them and play the video for reference? My favorite application for this is MPlayer which is a free media player and you can grab it off their website at https://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.html
It’s quick and useful but if you’re shooting 1080i it doesn’t de-interlace on the fly so you might notice the even and odd fields when there’s motion going on. It’s fast and doesn’t use a lot of system resources, give it a whirl and let me know if you find anything better.
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Wow, I never would have expected it to copy the markers but not the number associated with it. That’s a great solution, thanks!
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Youtube is funny because they apparently show their “Watch in HD” videos at around 480p. However if you upload a 480p video to them, they’ll just downscale it and won’t give you the “Watch in HD” option at all. You need to upload a 720p video in order to get that 480p feed. It sounds crazy but the general internet viewer probably doesn’t care one way or another. But to answer your question, I’ve had success just rendering a 720p WMV from Vegas and uploading that. It’ll be a lot smaller (in filesize) than the video you’ve been rendering.
As for cpu’s if you’re actually editing HD footage and don’t want to spend a lot I would definitely consider getting something with an Intel E8400 or Q6600. I’ve built pc’s with the E8400 both at home and at work and it’s great… for now 😛