Daniel Frome
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I have no doubt that he may have had some influence into FCPX.
“Make it so that I can use it on my ipad” …
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+1
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Sorry Bill, I was actually replying to Scott’s comment, since he “didn’t know where you were going with this?” I was merely answering him back with an equally sarcastic remark. On the reply-tree it seems I hit the proper reply button, but apologies for being crass nonetheless.
But, on the topic of your reply..
[Bill Davis] “You want to explain how NLE B, or C allows even greater efficiency than X on a laptop, THAT would be interesting to me and others as well, I’m pretty sure. What configs are you running to do your field cuts? How do you do encodes, exports and deliver client dubs outside the Apple ecosystem.
Enquiring minds want to know.”
Considering the simple task of this example… They all do it at about the same efficiency imho. Shane Ross summed this up pretty nicely a few posts down. I’d say Premiere Pro CS5.5 would be the fastest (but with a CUDA GPU). FCPX is probably a solid 2nd place, followed by Media Composer 5.5, and then FCP7 (since FCP7 is slow at rendering alpha channel materials, I would guesstimate it comes in last place). (But no, I am seriously not interested in actually putting this to the test — feel free to completely disregard my opinion.)
If I could just make a general statement: I frequent this forum a fair amount and have not really seen such blatant bashing as you claim, but I suppose it could be insinuated. Personally I don’t hold much of an opinion about FCPX, other than the fact that I know it can’t be used for my day job (television editor). It’s not that FCPX sucks at editing – it just can’t do the collaborative work that my studio requires.
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TLDR: guy captures tape and exports into a quicktime movie, hails FCPX a success.
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The difference here is that DSLRs, despite the many shortcomings, have some strengths that are so irresistible that there ends up being a net-gain to using them.
FCPX, however, does not have this irresistible “gotta have it” item. I think that’s what they were hoping the magnetic timeline to be.
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No, the drama hasn’t been worthwhile.
Apple often creates genuinely “disruptive” products, and some people here are giving this same terminology to FCPX. They’re wrong though, because this product is not disruptive in a good way and I guarantee it is only increasing the sales of their competitors – both on the lower end (Adobe) and the higher end (Avid). I highly doubt that FCPX is even making strong inroads to the consumer community we think it’s marketed towards. It’s probably (just a guess) one of Apple’s worst selling software packages.
What surprises me nowadays is that people are still even talking about FCPX in this “debate” sort of way. I visit this FCPX forum because it’s become a venting place (ie. a place where editors are actually ‘talking’ and not just shouting tech-specs, which we do too often) – but I honestly don’t care about what actually happens to FCPX. There’s too much to love about Premiere CS5 and Avid.
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Avid editor here — As others have said, you can do all your effects inside Avid if you learn the program. However, Premiere Pro blows the socks off Avid (and any other program) when it comes to effects and general render power. I’m not surprised you warmed up to Premiere in that category. I don’t use Ppro very much, but whenever I do I sometimes get that old school analog feeling when scrubbing footage, because it reacts so fast it might as well be tape :p
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+1.
I would also like to add my current TV show to the (probably huge) list of productions using sequences as your base source of content. When dealing with enormous amounts of footage is just makes sense to create a series of sequences and work from those instead of source clips.
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I would try pulling the AMD card out and see if that solves the CUDA issue. I run CS5.5 with CUDA with my GTX285 and it runs quite well.
Also, a quad macpro 5,1 isn’t really a top of the line system these days. 4 cores (yes, 8 threads, but not near the same performance as 8 real cores) … I don’t see this machine as a screamer. In fact, I think the new macbook pro quad i7s might even beat it.
On a personal note, I think you’ll soon realize that mac pro workstations are not “screaming fast” machines except when new models are released. The PC world quickly surpasses them in raw CPU power, so think of it as paying for a more stable OS and better engineering of the computer itself (it won’t overheat, make noise, etc).
Of course… somebody is going to chime in with their opinion of Windows being just as stable as OSX and all that…bla bla. But that’s my opinion for what it’s worth.
Also — Premiere Pro CS5 runs faster on Windows vs OSX from what I’ve read.
Ever since computers went crazy with more cores vs megahertz you’ll find that speed increases are not as obvious except when rendering or doing something else that taxes all the cores continuously.
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[David Cherniack] “I was recently in the DV Shop and was told they’re selling more CS5 than MC…so there you go. Maybe you should qualify your comments a little more carefully.”
That’s no surprise about the DV Shop. On the note of qualifying I think the onus on you here — we’re talking about helping an “edit assistant at a post-production company.” Clearly getting him on the Avid bandwagon is going to be most helpful advice, while learning Premiere Pro is going to be something he can take his time to do while the industry catches up.