Bob Zelin
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to change any raid from one level to another, you have to blow away all the media, and start from scratch (delete the raid group).
So are you saying that you have deleted the raid 5 group, and you are starting from scratch, and raid 0 is not a choice in your GUI ?You do realize that if you lose one drive in a RAID 0 group, you lose all your data – correct ?
Bob Zelin
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thunderbolt 2 has a max theoretical bandwidth of 1375 MB/sec. So they could come out with drives faster than SSD, and you still could not get any bandwidth faster than 1375 MB/sec (in real life, a RAID 0
on Thunderbolt 2 is 1300 MB/sec). In a RAID 6 configuration, it more like 1000 MB/sec. So if SATA is giving you 900 MB/sec in RAID 6, and you get 4 times the storage for less money, why wouldn’t you do that ?Bob
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Hi –
you are posting on the SAN forum as well.either the Synology or QNAP solution will work , as long as you have a 10G card, and a 10g uplink port on your switch. You have picked the wrong switch.
It is obvious to me that you are unfamiliar with all of these products. Small Tree is a wonderful company, and so are all the other shared storage systems that you see on Creative Cow. And guess what, Synology, and QNAP can be wonderful too, if they are configured correctly with the switch.
So exactly what is your goal here – to avoid paying a dealer or local engineer to help you get everything setup ? Because the #1 difference between ANY company is SUPPORT. Do you know how to do this stuff ? Do you think that any of this stuff (Small Tree, QNAP, Synology, and all the others) just plugs in ? Do you think that there is a “quick start guide” that says “just plug in your computer and you will instantly have shared storage”.
All these systems work, and while Small tree is incredibly wonderful (and so are other companies that you see here on Creative Cow) – your small installation will work fine with both the QNAP or the Synology, but if will NOT work fine if you don’t HIRE SOMEONE that knows what the hell they are doing.
It’s like saying “well, I dont’ know how to edit with Adobe Premiere, but if I buy it, and I read the manual, I can be a great editor by next week” – sorry this doesn’t happen. Same with cameras, and same with the storage arrays, that you are looking at.
Everything you mentioned works just fine if it’s set up correctly.
And that person won’t be you.
Bob Zelin
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Rescue 1, Inc.
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2 thunderbolt computers sharing the same info off the same 871T at the same time – what can I say – I have not tried it, so what the hell do I know.
I can assure you that if you buy a switch, and connect via 10G with Promise or Sonnet adaptors, you will have a working system, with the Tbolt ports for expansion.Other than accusys, I have never ever seen a working thunderbolt shared storage system – even a 2 port one. So I just don’t know.
I believe nothing until I try it.Is your goal to have only 2 Tbolt workstation share media with no expansion of either more storage or more users ?
Bob
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the tvs 871t is a great product. But you still use it with 10Gb Ethernet. You use the Thunderbolt
port to expand to a second 8 bay (and more 8 bay ) expansion chassis. You use the native
10G port to go to a 10G switch, and that is how you connect your client computers.Thunderbolt networking does not work, so if you think that you are going to plug the thunderbolt
ports on your computers into the TVS871T, you are mistaken.The only shared storage thunderbolt product is the Accusys, and this requires an XSAN or Tiger Share server, and then only gives you 3 client access with no expandability. And the insides of the Accusys is not really thunderbolt, it has internal converters. And it’s $10.000.
You are looking at the QNAP 871T because of it’s aggresively low price. It’s a very nice product, but you will still use 10GbaseT for network, not thunderbolt – again, it can connect to your Mac as a storage device, but for shared storage (to use this as a server for multiple computers) – you will still use thunderbolt.
With that said, a 10G switch, and thunderbolt to 10G boxes are cheap today, so there is no excuse not to proceed with what you want to do.
Bob Zelin
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Rescue 1, Inc.
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I would like to make a historical post on this subject.
With all the “smart people in the room”, and all the smart manufacturers who do this –
the single person that discovered this, and posted it on https://www.fcp.co
was Amanda Burns at Florida Atlantic University.
This young lady figured out what no one else could, as “we” were scrambling with sparse disk images at the introduction of FCP-X.NFS was readily available in OS X Server in Snow Leopard, and Apple “hid it” upon the introduction of FCP-X. Many thanks to both Amanda Burns and Marcel Bresink.
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Hi –
I answered your question in detail this morning in a private email.
But for the group – any system that uses NFS can edit FCP-X.
Both Ronny Courtens in Denmark and Sam Meseman with LumaForge gave presentations on this at IBC last week.So everything that can do NFS (which is every system except AVID ISIS) can do FCP-X shared storage.
The usual – Facilis, EditShare, Small Tree, Maxx Digital, Studio Network Solutions, ProMax, LumaForge, and all the others. Enable NFS, and you can share your libraries. Many people don’t like NFS, and just manually move their libraries around, and continue to just use AFP or SMB, with the minor inconvenience of
having to keep their libraries on a local volume.Media for FCP-X of course, has never been an issue.
Bob Zelin
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Rescue 1, Inc.
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this is a reply to Michael Phillips –
since every other shared storage company offers a full 10G solution (let’s take Facilis as one of many companies that offer a full 10G solution) – why would I ever consider AVID as a shared storage solution ? Certainly the AVID ISIS 1000 is attractive for a small Media Composer workgroup – but isn’t the Facilis 8D for less money ?
Does Facilis have terrible support ? Does Facilis know what they are doing, or are they a bunch of idiots ? I am only using them as an example for this reply, but if you are using Adobe CC (or Davinci Resolve, etc.) aren’t ALL the other shared storage solutions excellent solutions ? Are you aware of even one that is a terrible solution, that is “blown away” by AVID ISIS 5500 ?Bob Zelin
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Rescue 1, Inc.
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chronosync
carbon copy cloner
super duper
shot put proall cost $40 bucks – all offer free trials.
and exactly what is wrong with network storage ?
all it takes is a Mac Mini, and a dual port thunderbolt to 10G box for $500 bucks (and your storage).Bob Zelin
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Hi Adam –
I love David Norden and the guys at SoftSharX. And Bernard’s Tiger Store from Tiger Techologies is wonderful too.I am responding because I want to make it very clear, that the expense of doing this has nothing to do with the software – which is minimal cost. You still need a dedicated computer to be the server. You still need a big fast RAID array that can keep up with multiple clients (even if it’s DNxHD 36 with 2 clients – no you can’t use your Lacie Rugged drive as the storage array). And you still need a hi speed network, not the 50 dollar switch you bought at the local Office Depot.
So no matter what you choose, you still have to purchase OTHER STUFF to make a shared storage system work. SoftSharX and Tiger Store are both wonderful choices, but they are only part of the puzzle.
Bob Zelin
Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com