Bob Zelin
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Hello –
I use U.2 NVMe drives all the time. I install them in QNAP TS-h1290FX and QNAP TS-h2490FU systems. U.2 (and U.3) NVMe drives are the fastest drives on the market. I have only used them in a RAID configuration – never as single drives. Another new product that uses U.2 NVMe drives is the Blackmagic Design Cloud Dock 4 and Cloud Dock 2, that are both very inexpensive (but only offer a 10G interface). The QNAP’s offer a 25G interface, so you will get faster performace with a 25GbE interface on your computer.
The price of 15 TB U.2 NVMe’s are dramatically more expensive than the 7.68 TB models. You can get a 7.68 TB U.2 NVMe from Samsung or Kingston for about $600 US.
If you are on a budget, and can’t afford the QNAP’s, you should look at this –
Blackmagic Cloud Store – Tech Specs | Blackmagic Design
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I see that Neil has been posting quite a bit recently. I kind of gave up on this forum, as I just observed utter desperation of people with old equipment like Tolis BRU, and simply refused to accept that they had old equipment, and had to spend money. The very idea that someone won’t spend the money for a license of Hedge Canister, or YoYotta, and just wants to do it for free is a big turn off for me. What kind of professionals are these ?
As the years have gone by, and I have observed what happened with all of these companies (Tolis BRU, Cache-A, etc.) – it is very clear. Data migration is a fact of life, just like Neil said in a similar post. You can say that drives are not safe, but be it LTO, Cloud, or drives, you are not getting more than 5 – 6 years out of any of these. And if you say “cloud” – then you will be paying for what a large drive based system costs within 5 – 6 years. There ain’t no “free unlimited dropbox account” for this type of professional application.
If you simply get a large NAS, like a 24 bay QNAP TS-h3087XU-RP (it’s $8000 before the cost of the drives – you load it up with 20 or 22 TB SATA drives), then you now have 400 – 440 TB of usable storage after RAID 60. If you have a disaster with your main system, there is no slow download from a cloud site like S3, or trying to restore 400 TB from LTO tapes. It’s instant. Will this last 30 years – or even 10 years – absolutely not. But neither will your LTO 5 tape library that you spend a fortune for. Data migration is a fact of life, and it will cost you money every few years to migrate to whatever is new. I found it very frustrating to observe on this forum, how people were hysterical about Tolis BRU, and simply refused to spend the money to get the “next thing”. These are the same people that are still trying to use their 2009 Mac Pro’s and Apple FCP 7.
Bob Zelin
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I assume you have received my reply in the email. If you have any further questions, just email me directly.
Bob Zelin
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I am more and more troubled by users like Danny, and the other idiots that are using Tolis Bru, and are in a panic that they cannot use Tolis Bru, or their 2010 Mac Pro with their NVidia GPU card any longer. I am old. I will die soon. But I cannot be aggrivated by these users, who are close to retirement, that simply refuse to purchase equipment that is owned now by anyone that is 25 years old or older (except for the OLD BAGS that seem to post here). The Mac Studios are great. The QNAP’s (provided you purchase the correct product) are great. You have 2 computers – no issue. Get a QNAP TVS-h1288X, that has eight SATA drives (it requires two SSD’s to run the QuTS operating system – they cost $89 each – and if you DARE to question that, I will fly to your location and kill you) – and you plug each computers 10G port into each of the QNAP’s dual 10G ports, and now you have a working system that will do exactly what you want. The QNAP TVS-h1288X is about $2750. You spend $89 each for the dual 500 Gig SSD drives, you get eight matching 7200 RPM SATA drives, and now you have exactly what you want. And if you have a wonderful Win10/Win 11 PC, that has the NVidia GPU card – God bless you – because this works perfectly. And if the 2nd computer is the Mac Studio – that is perfect. You now have a wonderful system.
If you dare to try to discuss hardware that was made in 2010 – I will not answer you, I will not support you, and I will not answer any of your stupid questions. I am really getting sick of the old people on this forum, that will not accept reality. You are close to retirement ? I dont’ care – I will be 67 in 2 months. If you do this for a living – you act like a professional, and you buy the appropriate hardware. Your retirement is not my concern. I will die doing this.
Bob Zelin
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Hello Bob – why won’t you simply purchase a new Mac Studio and new storage. Exactly what is your money for that you earn ?
Bob Zelin
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this is an old thread. But to answer your question – YOU ARE CORRECT – any of the $600 Synology or QNAP boxes CANNOT be used for video editing. They are junk. Want a cheap one man Synology – DS1621xs+. $1599 and add 6 matching 7200 RPM SATA drives.
Connect from your computer over 10G (get a 10G NIC for your computer. New Mac’s come with 10G, and the DS1621xs+ comes with dual 10GbE ports.
Bob Zelin
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thunderbolt 4 is not faster than thunderbolt 3.
https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/owc-envoy-pro-fx
and if you are confused by my statements –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPyo_1xzIzg
and what is with the – – – – – –
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Bob Zelin
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Hi Mike –
Blackmagic Design Cloud Store
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagiccloudstore
Blackmagic Design Resolve 18 with new proxy generator
QNAP TS-h2490FU and TDS-h2389FU. U.2 NVMe’s are a lot faster than SATA drives.
QNAP QSW-M5216-1T 25G SFP28 switch – 16 port for $1200 !!!!!
Lucid Link, and Hedge PostLab Drive for remote access
Parsec will have a booth
Is Netgear getting out of the 10G ethernet business ? Big question for me !
Seagate JBOD expansion chassis
Apple will not be there. Neither will AVID, or Sonnet.
Bob Zelin
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Hi-
Gino Salvatelli hired me to install his QNAP TS-h1683XU-RP. It was done this past week, and everything is working great.
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I install the QNAP TVS-h1288X all the time. This is excellent for professional video editing for Adobe Premiere, FCP X, Davinci Resolve or AVID Media Composer (AVID if you install Indiestor Mimiq on your workstations). You need two 500 Gig SSD drives to run the QuTS operating system, and all eight matching 7200 RPM SATA drives. You create 2 networks – a 10G network for your editing computers and the 10G port on the QNAP, using a dedicated 10G switch like a small Netgear or QNAP 10G switch, and a second 1G network for your internet access for your computers, and if you want remote access to the QNAP.
I see that you are in Sweden. I have done QNAP Systems in Sweden for Alm & Me, Broken Doll, Slutetarnara,
So This Is Why and Joel Arvidsoon.