[Andreas Kiel]

Daniel,

You might be interested in this post on the LAFCPUG
https://www.lafcpug.org/phorum/read.php?1,224140,224550#msg-224550

Regards
Andreas

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

[Andreas Kiel]

But TitleExchange won’t work which Boris – and no other similar XML application will work with it as well.
The TitleExchange demo comes with a free but professional subtitle generator called TextUp which may/will be helpful when doing subtitles.

Regards
Andreas

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

[Andreas Kiel]

Hi,

First of all raise the “Still Cache”. If you got a real lot of subtitles you should distribute them to tracks where only that “title track” should be enabled which you are working on.

Andreas Kiel

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

[Andreas Kiel]

Hi,

Have a look at my TitleExchange – should solve your problems with a few clicks.

Regards
Andreas

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

[Andreas Kiel]

Hi Sam,

Just sent an email to the SendIt address. Get some sleep – I do need it as well.

Regards
Andreas

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

[Andreas Kiel]

Hi Sam,

Next time just “zip” the file – it will be very small as it’s just text.

Regards
Andreas

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

[Andreas Kiel]

Hi Sam,

Sounds like a bigger problem. Subclips always had been a pain and shouldn’t be used. But that doesn’t help you now.
How are the subclips constructed? Are they just a part of a clip or do they come from a linked clip where video and audio comes from different sources. In latter case there is nearly no chance to get them back as Final Cut doesn’t like especially things like that. In case they are just parts of a master clip there are good chances to get them back via XML as clips with correct in/out.
You can send me the XML of the project and I’ll have a look at it.
kiel at spherico dot com

Regards
Andreas

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

[Andreas Kiel]

Hello,

Kevin wrote: Sure, we have Motion. But I “don’t go there” unless I need some serious horsepower.”
David wrote: I agree completely!!!

I write: Sorry, I really totally disagree with that.

For a job as described at the beginning of this thread Motion maybe is the only tool which makes sense. Live Type and Boris do not make any sense at all – except you like things complicated and like to spent hours on eventual changes.

The standard generators available for Final Cut Pro are very good if you know how to use them and they are way faster to handle when it comes changes.
There is my free TextUp generator which does handle this kind of job very nice

Boris, Live Type are good for titles but not for lower thirds and subtitles.

I’m definitively not a Motion specialist – more a kind of bloody beginner – but it’s so easy to handle lower thirds with Motion and Final Cut Pro that even I was able to write a tutorial about that last year.
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools/TitleExchange/MotionTutorial/index.html

Regards
Andreas

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

[Andreas Kiel]

Hello Jack,

Unfortunately your simple problem is a bit more complicated. And XML won’t really solve it

Here the answer for “why it is complicated”.
First BWAV audio is not QuickTime (though QuickTime compatible) and therefore does not have Quicktime timecode. You do see a timecode within Final Cut, but this one is based upon the so called “tc64” which is based upon your project settings sampling rate and timebase (FCP6) and the “Samples after Midnight” of the audio file. This is the first thing.
Now the second thing. If you digitize/transfer camera video it probably will have audio and will be a QuickTime file. Those Quicktime will contain the audio (or a reference to it).
Having the files in your project you just can delete the camera audio and link the video to the external audio to create a new master – don’t make a merged clip based upon timecode as audio does not have a timecode.
That’s not really a problem as long as your project is stable and doesn’t need a reconnect. In latter case – and that happens with XML – Final Cut will read the original AV file plus the external audio. So in your case you will get a clip which does have 8 audio channels instead of the 6 channels you expect. That might look not like a problem as well, but you can’t open this clip without errors anymore. In many cases if you just work in the timeline there is no visible problem – but a little time bomb.

So where is the solution?
There is one simple – if you’re sure all video and external audio do have the same TOD and nothing is missing – just digitize/transfer without audio. From there you can use my currently free “sequenceLiner” to lay down your video and audio to a sequence based upon their TOD. Then step thru and link the clips.
The more time consuming one – digitize/transfer as usual, use “sequenceLiner” to line up the clips. Make a batch export of all those clips which do have external audio without audio, re-connect them and link.

What you never should do – if you expect that your project has to go offline/online or might crash or has been transfered from one machine to another – is to create subclips with external audio. Subclips will re-connect with the file’s “Real In” when re-connecting. This in many cases will create an out off sync situation.

I’ve been working on a project like this for several month now and we’ve tested thousands of files within several system setups and the above always turned out to be true.

There is also a better option with my “multiSync” which will do the steps with some simple clicks. To be involved into the current beta drop me me a mail: kiel at spherico dot com.

Regards
Andreas

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

[Andreas Kiel]

Hi,

As I’m the author of TitleExchange I may chime in.

TitleExchange can convert a lot of common subtitle formats into generators of your choice within a Final Cut Pro sequence (or DVD Studio, or Avid, or DCP or …). Depending on the in/out format a lot of subtitle settings can be transported.
To create subtitles, SubBits or BelleNuit are recommended. TitleExchange can work with both of them to create matching generators of your choice within Final Cut Pro. Different from those tools TitleExchange does not create bitmap graphics or does spotting. That maybe bad in some cases but could help in others as you are way more flexible.

If you render the subtitles using SubBits or BelleNuit you don’t need the font installed on your target machine. But you can’t make any changes to the titles directly within your FCS application.

Just as a note: I don’t think Final Cut Pro (and the generators available – except Boris) are that bad for subtitles as long as you know what you’re doing. I know quite a lot of theatrical releases where subtitles where done with Final Cut Pro – not the spotting of the subtitles.

Regards
Andreas

Spherico
https://www.spherico.com/filmtools