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  • lower third titles – adjusting space between 1st and 2nd line

    Posted by Ira Liss on January 2, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    Hi,
    I’m using FCP’s lower third function, generating text to identify a talking head.
    Text is on two lines.
    1st line is name of on-camera person
    2nd line is title

    Do you know of a way I can modify the space
    between the first and second line?

    (Talking in typography terms, this space is often called “leading.”)

    It seems the default line spacing is more open than I’d like.

    As a workaround, I’m thinking of using FCP’s text function that is just “text” and
    not “lower 1/3s.” I’ve seen that “text” allows more control over leading.

    And then I would position the text to fit in the lower third.

    Anyone know how to adjust the leading and
    still stay in FCB’s lower 1/3 function?

    I appreciate your help,
    – Ira

    Andreas Kiel replied 17 years, 4 months ago 8 Members · 13 Replies
  • 13 Replies
  • David Bogie

    January 2, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    Use LiveType and crate a separate text item for each line so they are individually adjustable. Although your reference to real typography suggests you won’t enjoy using LT either, it has no kerning at all.

    The Boris text tool (Outline Text) you have in FCP are far more complex but infinitely more adjustable.

    bogiesan

  • Ira Liss

    January 2, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    Hi David,

    Thank you for your quick and helpful response.

    Is LiveType a feature within Final Cut Pro
    or an add on or separate program?
    How do I find or access it?

    Thanks again,
    – Ira

  • Victor Perez

    January 2, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    LiveType is located in your applications folder. If you have not previously used LiveType and are just adding simple text for supers without fancy effects it might be easier to stack two layers of “Outline Text” or “Text” from Final Cut and then move each layer up or down to your liking in the canvas. LiveType is great, so get used to it but, it can be a bit complicated if you have not used it before. Things like Format, Aspect, Size, Background, etc can change the look (ratio) of your titles when rendered out or used as an .ipr file.

    Depending on the project we usually stack 2 Text Files for simple titles and use LiveType for GFX text.
    Other projects call for individual LiveType titles with effects.

    good luck,

    Victor

  • David Roth weiss

    January 2, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Don’t ever use the FC text tool, always use Boris 3D. After creating two lines, highlight the lower one and slide “Style Baseline” at will to move that line up or down independently.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

  • Ira Liss

    January 2, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Hi David,

    Because I don’t yet own Boris 3D,
    I’m curious as to why you advise against FCP’s text function.

    It’s true I am fairly new to using FCP.
    So far, its text seems acceptable and workable.

    For the project I’m working on, text
    does not need any FX, just static, straight
    forward with drop shadow, supered next
    to different on-camera talking heads.

    I do appreciate your taking the
    time to share your thoughts.

    Thanks,
    – Ira
    storyboards
    and graphics

  • Tom Wolsky

    January 2, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    You do own Boris Title 3D. It’s in the Boris submenu of the Generators. It’s a vector based, full featured titling tool. All the text tools are really legacy tools and largely redundant. They really should no longer to used except for the simplest titling for placeholders and such.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

  • David Roth weiss

    January 2, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    [Ira Liss] “Because I don’t yet own Boris 3D, “

    Sure you do, it comes as part of FCS. If you click on the film frame with the A on it at the lower right under the viewer, you’ll see Boris listed. In there you’ll see Title 3D. Learn it, it’s the text tool almost everyone uses, because the FC text tool is simply inferior.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

  • Victor Perez

    January 2, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    Thanks David,

    We have another series entering the edit suites within a month. I will be starting on a basic template and will incorporate the use of Boris Title then.

    Thanks,

    Victor

  • Ira Liss

    January 2, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Thank you, all!

    Yes, I see I do have Boris as part
    of FCP.

    I’ll start using it as I want my skills and
    tools to be up-to-par with the industry.

    Thank you again for sharing
    your time and wisdom.

    Regards,
    – Ira
    storyboards
    and graphics

  • Tom Matthies

    January 3, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    I have to comment on David’s post above. Live Type does indeed have the ability to kern letters separately or as a group. Any letter can be adjusted to any degree in relation to the other letters. Simply highlight the letter(s) and using the Cmd “arrow” keys, it can be moved anywhere in relation to the other letters on the baseline. Very “Chyron-like” actually.
    Tom

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