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Alex, Wil (an Adobe employee) says in the link I sent in an earlier post, that Adobe suggests that using preview files can be problematic due to generation loss. The offical policy is to tell users not to use it. Add that to the fact that when PrP exports, it rerenders the ENTIRE sequence makes me miss the faster approach that FCP used. But that method was closely tied to Quicktime and converting everything to Prores Im told.
“The ‘Use preview files’ option in PPro is exactly that – if there’s a preview file, it decodes the frame out of it, & re-encodes it into the final file. So while it’ll help in (non-CUDA) effects heavy compositions, it also incurs a generation loss. Generally, we don’t recommend using it (hence the default to off) unless you really are sure that’s what you want.”
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Jhoe, Im sharing this info since it kind of relates to the subject of how PrP functions when you export. Ive also done lots of tests and had lots of dialog about this subject. It is quite different from FCP.
And be forewarned, the time you save not transcoding at the front end of the process can be lost by the time it takes to export your project at the end of the process. Unlike FCP, which stitches together all the rendering done while you edit, Premiere renders the enter timeline when it exports. This can be humongous (hours) for large projects or projects with lots of dynamic links to AE or large format projects like Red.
An Adobe technician explained it to me this way when I asked him why PrP rendering on export seemed to take more time than FCP.“What you’re looking for is what we commonly refer to as smart rendering, and it doesn’t exist in PPro. That’s a Final Cut ‘ism, where it splices rendered data from the preview QT files into the final render. Keep in mind that’s a QuickTime centric feature, & doesn’t translate automatically to all file formats.”
A big discussion can be seen here.
https://forums.adobe.com/message/3945436#3945436
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You’re very welcome, Anthony!
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Well, I would suggest a call to Adobe Tech Support. Its free and eventually you should get the answer you want. Ask for Vinay. I have found him to be very knowledgeable and cool to troubleshoot with.
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So when you want to render your timeline, you get an error message and it wont render the timeline.
And when you export, you get another error message, but it exports the sequence just fine.
Am I understanding your situation correctly?
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Heres some info about render lines and their meaning. Its different from FCP.
https://blogs.adobe.com/premiereprotraining/2011/02/red-yellow-and-green-render-bars.html#comments
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Nice. Good trouble shooting. I will have to remember this trick if I ever bump into this issue.
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That is very strange stuff. Yes, if you just bought PrP and AE (not the suite) it is my understanding that they wouldn’t work.What are the versions of PrP and AE ?
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Make sure you SAVE in AE before toggling back to PrP. I have never bumped into this issue and I use DL a lot.
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Tim,heres a link to a dialog about using a Prores workflow and the attempt to use Preview files to speed up export.
https://forums.adobe.com/message/3945436#3945436
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