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I can tell you that because the action is ‘fast’ and
the frame differences are huge, it’d be necessary
to guide Twixtor’s motion detection using some
manual tracking (in Twixtor Pro) at least to separate
certain ‘areas’ from each other. Plus the clip has
been captured with a fairly long exposure time
(hence motion blur). So there’s no one magical
setting that would track everything fully, and
the manual tracking work would be the thing to do.
You could easily spend several hours to set up polys
for something like this. If you’re in a hurry, you
may want to concentrate on the hands and fingers
making them the ‘foreground’ objects, since
there are less details and interest in his gi.
His face would be easy to track, except where his
hands go ‘in the foreground’ and when he starts to
rotate towards the camera.
Perhaps another approach might be to extend where there’s
less frame differences and quicken where there are –
to exagerrate both the ‘fast’ parts and ‘slow’ parts –
using frame-number speed control. For such a speed
ramp, the motion blur compensation would be quite
effective since it will exaggerate blur where
action is ‘fast’ and subtract it where the action is
‘slowed down’.
HTH
-Shin -
I can tell you that because the action is ‘fast’ and
the frame differences are huge, it’d be necessary
to guide Twixtor’s motion detection using some
manual tracking (in Twixtor Pro) at least to separate
certain ‘areas’ from each other. Plus the clip has
been captured with a fairly long exposure time
(hence motion blur). So there’s no one magical
setting that would track everything fully, and
the manual tracking work would be the thing to do.
You could easily spend several hours to set up polys
for something like this. If you’re in a hurry, you
may want to concentrate on the hands and fingers
making them the ‘foreground’ objects, since
there are less details and interest in his gi.
His face would be easy to track, except where his
hands go ‘in the foreground’ and when he starts to
rotate towards the camera.
Perhaps another approach might be to extend where there’s
less frame differences and quicken where there are –
to exagerrate both the ‘fast’ parts and ‘slow’ parts –
using frame-number speed control. For such a speed
ramp, the motion blur compensation would be quite
effective since it will exaggerate blur where
action is ‘fast’ and subtract it where the action is
‘slowed down’.
HTH
-Shin -
RE: fields in flame
Usually one would deinterlace the source clip
(making it 2x the length by separating fields),
process/roto it, then reinterlace it again.
You can set the field dominance in flame in
the Format menu. You can also export image seqs
that you can import into your other machines
without going the tape route.RE: 25p->50p
Depending on what you need to do, there maybe
some benefit in twixtoring a 25p to 50p,
in terms of visual quality, but you may need
to weigh it against the longer work hours spent. 🙂RE: PAL->NTSC
I assume what you really want to do is to
convert a progressive PAL to progressive NTSC.
There are 2 basic methods:
1) 25p -> 30p
2) 25p -> 24p + 3:2pulldown
The differences are…:
#1 requires increasing the framerate.
#2 reduces the framerate, but uses the standard
pulldown to simulate the normal movie-on-TV(NTSC)
look. In this case, the result is interlaced,
but if you have a TV that removes pulldown on
the fly (there are many on the market now) then
you can actually look at the progressive content.
Similarly, if you have a DVD encoder that detects
pulldown, you can save a lot of space by
encoding it progressive. The pulldown can
be added to 24p clips automatically using
for ex., a video i/o card such as the BMD or
Igniter. If not, there’s a need to render
24p->60i(w/3:2added).Now, we could do the above in 2 ways:
with temporal reinterpretation using Twixtor,
or without Twixtor. For instance, if you
simply stick a 25fps clip in a 30fps
timeline w/o Twixtor, you would get a speedup
and decrease in TRT (total running time).
Most people find this annoying since the
resulting action looks funny and the audio pitch
shift is very noticeable (although audio can be
pitch corrected using an external application),
but many find it acceptable in the case
of 25p->24p (or 24p->25p) where the
speedup/down factor is fairly small —
in fact, this is done all the time around
the world! 🙂 With Twixtor, you can preserve
the TRT if you need to; in both #1 and #2
above, Twixtor will actually create/interpolate
new inbetween frames.(I should also add that 25p->60i w/Twixtor
interpolation is possible. In this case
you will no longer see a progressive image
sequence – unless there’s no motion whatsoever.
Where there’s motion, things will look much/
overly ‘smoother’ because of the framerate
increase.)Note: we’re only talking about framerates
here. There’s also the issue of pixel aspect
ratio and resolution differences and so on.
For more information, check out the basics
tutorial on the Twixtor page:
https://revisionfx.com/rstwixtor/DetailedTwixtor45Tuts.zipHTH!
-Shin -
RE: fields in flame
Usually one would deinterlace the source clip
(making it 2x the length by separating fields),
process/roto it, then reinterlace it again.
You can set the field dominance in flame in
the Format menu. You can also export image seqs
that you can import into your other machines
without going the tape route.RE: 25p->50p
Depending on what you need to do, there maybe
some benefit in twixtoring a 25p to 50p,
in terms of visual quality, but you may need
to weigh it against the longer work hours spent. 🙂RE: PAL->NTSC
I assume what you really want to do is to
convert a progressive PAL to progressive NTSC.
There are 2 basic methods:
1) 25p -> 30p
2) 25p -> 24p + 3:2pulldown
The differences are…:
#1 requires increasing the framerate.
#2 reduces the framerate, but uses the standard
pulldown to simulate the normal movie-on-TV(NTSC)
look. In this case, the result is interlaced,
but if you have a TV that removes pulldown on
the fly (there are many on the market now) then
you can actually look at the progressive content.
Similarly, if you have a DVD encoder that detects
pulldown, you can save a lot of space by
encoding it progressive. The pulldown can
be added to 24p clips automatically using
for ex., a video i/o card such as the BMD or
Igniter. If not, there’s a need to render
24p->60i(w/3:2added).Now, we could do the above in 2 ways:
with temporal reinterpretation using Twixtor,
or without Twixtor. For instance, if you
simply stick a 25fps clip in a 30fps
timeline w/o Twixtor, you would get a speedup
and decrease in TRT (total running time).
Most people find this annoying since the
resulting action looks funny and the audio pitch
shift is very noticeable (although audio can be
pitch corrected using an external application),
but many find it acceptable in the case
of 25p->24p (or 24p->25p) where the
speedup/down factor is fairly small —
in fact, this is done all the time around
the world! 🙂 With Twixtor, you can preserve
the TRT if you need to; in both #1 and #2
above, Twixtor will actually create/interpolate
new inbetween frames.(I should also add that 25p->60i w/Twixtor
interpolation is possible. In this case
you will no longer see a progressive image
sequence – unless there’s no motion whatsoever.
Where there’s motion, things will look much/
overly ‘smoother’ because of the framerate
increase.)Note: we’re only talking about framerates
here. There’s also the issue of pixel aspect
ratio and resolution differences and so on.
For more information, check out the basics
tutorial on the Twixtor page:
https://revisionfx.com/rstwixtor/DetailedTwixtor45Tuts.zipHTH!
-Shin -
This might help too:
if you crank up antialiasing and
check to see Warp/Color Percentages are
animated smoothly. You can do this
either by using the Global Percentage
controls (if they’re checked), or
on a per-mask basis (more complicated
in AE but more flexible… no puns
intended!).
-Shin -
This might help too:
if you crank up antialiasing and
check to see Warp/Color Percentages are
animated smoothly. You can do this
either by using the Global Percentage
controls (if they’re checked), or
on a per-mask basis (more complicated
in AE but more flexible… no puns
intended!).
-Shin -
Oops, Just noticed there’s an “output frame rate”
paragraph in the page :
Twixtor 4.5 Controls in After Effects
(….333FSAE/FSAE_01.htm)
<--- Dustin, ignore that paragraph. Output FR + field controls in Twixtor (AE) were removed in v.4.x. Only combustion version has the out FR control still. Arrgh! Not enough caffeine! 😉 -Shin -
Oops, Just noticed there’s an “output frame rate”
paragraph in the page :
Twixtor 4.5 Controls in After Effects
(….333FSAE/FSAE_01.htm)
<--- Dustin, ignore that paragraph. Output FR + field controls in Twixtor (AE) were removed in v.4.x. Only combustion version has the out FR control still. Arrgh! Not enough caffeine! 😉 -Shin -
The info you want are at:
https://revisionfx.com/generalfaqsNTSCtoPAL.htm
https://revisionfx.com/rstwixtortutorials.htm
the Twixtor Basics tutorials,
Under After Effects -> Frame RatesGood luck!
-Shin -
The info you want are at:
https://revisionfx.com/generalfaqsNTSCtoPAL.htm
https://revisionfx.com/rstwixtortutorials.htm
the Twixtor Basics tutorials,
Under After Effects -> Frame RatesGood luck!
-Shin