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  • Shin Kurokawa

    August 2, 2005 at 1:05 pm in reply to: Best settings for my file

    I can tell you that because the action is ‘fast’ and
    the frame differences are huge, it’d be necessary
    to guide Twixtor’s motion detection using some
    manual tracking (in Twixtor Pro) at least to separate
    certain ‘areas’ from each other. Plus the clip has
    been captured with a fairly long exposure time
    (hence motion blur). So there’s no one magical
    setting that would track everything fully, and
    the manual tracking work would be the thing to do.
    You could easily spend several hours to set up polys
    for something like this. If you’re in a hurry, you
    may want to concentrate on the hands and fingers
    making them the ‘foreground’ objects, since
    there are less details and interest in his gi.
    His face would be easy to track, except where his
    hands go ‘in the foreground’ and when he starts to
    rotate towards the camera.
    Perhaps another approach might be to extend where there’s
    less frame differences and quicken where there are –
    to exagerrate both the ‘fast’ parts and ‘slow’ parts –
    using frame-number speed control. For such a speed
    ramp, the motion blur compensation would be quite
    effective since it will exaggerate blur where
    action is ‘fast’ and subtract it where the action is
    ‘slowed down’.
    HTH
    -Shin

  • Shin Kurokawa

    August 2, 2005 at 1:05 pm in reply to: Best settings for my file

    I can tell you that because the action is ‘fast’ and
    the frame differences are huge, it’d be necessary
    to guide Twixtor’s motion detection using some
    manual tracking (in Twixtor Pro) at least to separate
    certain ‘areas’ from each other. Plus the clip has
    been captured with a fairly long exposure time
    (hence motion blur). So there’s no one magical
    setting that would track everything fully, and
    the manual tracking work would be the thing to do.
    You could easily spend several hours to set up polys
    for something like this. If you’re in a hurry, you
    may want to concentrate on the hands and fingers
    making them the ‘foreground’ objects, since
    there are less details and interest in his gi.
    His face would be easy to track, except where his
    hands go ‘in the foreground’ and when he starts to
    rotate towards the camera.
    Perhaps another approach might be to extend where there’s
    less frame differences and quicken where there are –
    to exagerrate both the ‘fast’ parts and ‘slow’ parts –
    using frame-number speed control. For such a speed
    ramp, the motion blur compensation would be quite
    effective since it will exaggerate blur where
    action is ‘fast’ and subtract it where the action is
    ‘slowed down’.
    HTH
    -Shin

  • Shin Kurokawa

    July 22, 2005 at 1:58 pm in reply to: PAL to NTSC conversion with 25p

    RE: fields in flame
    Usually one would deinterlace the source clip
    (making it 2x the length by separating fields),
    process/roto it, then reinterlace it again.
    You can set the field dominance in flame in
    the Format menu. You can also export image seqs
    that you can import into your other machines
    without going the tape route.

    RE: 25p->50p
    Depending on what you need to do, there maybe
    some benefit in twixtoring a 25p to 50p,
    in terms of visual quality, but you may need
    to weigh it against the longer work hours spent. 🙂

    RE: PAL->NTSC
    I assume what you really want to do is to
    convert a progressive PAL to progressive NTSC.
    There are 2 basic methods:
    1) 25p -> 30p
    2) 25p -> 24p + 3:2pulldown
    The differences are…:
    #1 requires increasing the framerate.
    #2 reduces the framerate, but uses the standard
    pulldown to simulate the normal movie-on-TV(NTSC)
    look. In this case, the result is interlaced,
    but if you have a TV that removes pulldown on
    the fly (there are many on the market now) then
    you can actually look at the progressive content.
    Similarly, if you have a DVD encoder that detects
    pulldown, you can save a lot of space by
    encoding it progressive. The pulldown can
    be added to 24p clips automatically using
    for ex., a video i/o card such as the BMD or
    Igniter. If not, there’s a need to render
    24p->60i(w/3:2added).

    Now, we could do the above in 2 ways:
    with temporal reinterpretation using Twixtor,
    or without Twixtor. For instance, if you
    simply stick a 25fps clip in a 30fps
    timeline w/o Twixtor, you would get a speedup
    and decrease in TRT (total running time).
    Most people find this annoying since the
    resulting action looks funny and the audio pitch
    shift is very noticeable (although audio can be
    pitch corrected using an external application),
    but many find it acceptable in the case
    of 25p->24p (or 24p->25p) where the
    speedup/down factor is fairly small —
    in fact, this is done all the time around
    the world! 🙂 With Twixtor, you can preserve
    the TRT if you need to; in both #1 and #2
    above, Twixtor will actually create/interpolate
    new inbetween frames.

    (I should also add that 25p->60i w/Twixtor
    interpolation is possible. In this case
    you will no longer see a progressive image
    sequence – unless there’s no motion whatsoever.
    Where there’s motion, things will look much/
    overly ‘smoother’ because of the framerate
    increase.)

    Note: we’re only talking about framerates
    here. There’s also the issue of pixel aspect
    ratio and resolution differences and so on.
    For more information, check out the basics
    tutorial on the Twixtor page:
    https://revisionfx.com/rstwixtor/DetailedTwixtor45Tuts.zip

    HTH!
    -Shin

  • Shin Kurokawa

    July 22, 2005 at 1:58 pm in reply to: PAL to NTSC conversion with 25p

    RE: fields in flame
    Usually one would deinterlace the source clip
    (making it 2x the length by separating fields),
    process/roto it, then reinterlace it again.
    You can set the field dominance in flame in
    the Format menu. You can also export image seqs
    that you can import into your other machines
    without going the tape route.

    RE: 25p->50p
    Depending on what you need to do, there maybe
    some benefit in twixtoring a 25p to 50p,
    in terms of visual quality, but you may need
    to weigh it against the longer work hours spent. 🙂

    RE: PAL->NTSC
    I assume what you really want to do is to
    convert a progressive PAL to progressive NTSC.
    There are 2 basic methods:
    1) 25p -> 30p
    2) 25p -> 24p + 3:2pulldown
    The differences are…:
    #1 requires increasing the framerate.
    #2 reduces the framerate, but uses the standard
    pulldown to simulate the normal movie-on-TV(NTSC)
    look. In this case, the result is interlaced,
    but if you have a TV that removes pulldown on
    the fly (there are many on the market now) then
    you can actually look at the progressive content.
    Similarly, if you have a DVD encoder that detects
    pulldown, you can save a lot of space by
    encoding it progressive. The pulldown can
    be added to 24p clips automatically using
    for ex., a video i/o card such as the BMD or
    Igniter. If not, there’s a need to render
    24p->60i(w/3:2added).

    Now, we could do the above in 2 ways:
    with temporal reinterpretation using Twixtor,
    or without Twixtor. For instance, if you
    simply stick a 25fps clip in a 30fps
    timeline w/o Twixtor, you would get a speedup
    and decrease in TRT (total running time).
    Most people find this annoying since the
    resulting action looks funny and the audio pitch
    shift is very noticeable (although audio can be
    pitch corrected using an external application),
    but many find it acceptable in the case
    of 25p->24p (or 24p->25p) where the
    speedup/down factor is fairly small —
    in fact, this is done all the time around
    the world! 🙂 With Twixtor, you can preserve
    the TRT if you need to; in both #1 and #2
    above, Twixtor will actually create/interpolate
    new inbetween frames.

    (I should also add that 25p->60i w/Twixtor
    interpolation is possible. In this case
    you will no longer see a progressive image
    sequence – unless there’s no motion whatsoever.
    Where there’s motion, things will look much/
    overly ‘smoother’ because of the framerate
    increase.)

    Note: we’re only talking about framerates
    here. There’s also the issue of pixel aspect
    ratio and resolution differences and so on.
    For more information, check out the basics
    tutorial on the Twixtor page:
    https://revisionfx.com/rstwixtor/DetailedTwixtor45Tuts.zip

    HTH!
    -Shin

  • Shin Kurokawa

    June 1, 2005 at 3:21 pm in reply to: Woobles with Motion Morph

    This might help too:
    if you crank up antialiasing and
    check to see Warp/Color Percentages are
    animated smoothly. You can do this
    either by using the Global Percentage
    controls (if they’re checked), or
    on a per-mask basis (more complicated
    in AE but more flexible… no puns
    intended!).
    -Shin

  • Shin Kurokawa

    June 1, 2005 at 3:21 pm in reply to: Woobles with Motion Morph

    This might help too:
    if you crank up antialiasing and
    check to see Warp/Color Percentages are
    animated smoothly. You can do this
    either by using the Global Percentage
    controls (if they’re checked), or
    on a per-mask basis (more complicated
    in AE but more flexible… no puns
    intended!).
    -Shin

  • Shin Kurokawa

    May 23, 2005 at 9:09 pm in reply to: Twixtor Frame Rate Converion?

    Oops, Just noticed there’s an “output frame rate”
    paragraph in the page :
    Twixtor 4.5 Controls in After Effects
    (….333FSAE/FSAE_01.htm)
    <--- Dustin, ignore that paragraph. Output FR + field controls in Twixtor (AE) were removed in v.4.x. Only combustion version has the out FR control still. Arrgh! Not enough caffeine! 😉 -Shin

  • Shin Kurokawa

    May 23, 2005 at 9:09 pm in reply to: Twixtor Frame Rate Converion?

    Oops, Just noticed there’s an “output frame rate”
    paragraph in the page :
    Twixtor 4.5 Controls in After Effects
    (….333FSAE/FSAE_01.htm)
    <--- Dustin, ignore that paragraph. Output FR + field controls in Twixtor (AE) were removed in v.4.x. Only combustion version has the out FR control still. Arrgh! Not enough caffeine! 😉 -Shin

  • Shin Kurokawa

    May 23, 2005 at 7:56 pm in reply to: Twixtor Frame Rate Converion?

    The info you want are at:

    https://revisionfx.com/generalfaqsNTSCtoPAL.htm

    https://revisionfx.com/rstwixtortutorials.htm
    the Twixtor Basics tutorials,
    Under After Effects -> Frame Rates

    Good luck!
    -Shin

  • Shin Kurokawa

    May 23, 2005 at 7:56 pm in reply to: Twixtor Frame Rate Converion?

    The info you want are at:

    https://revisionfx.com/generalfaqsNTSCtoPAL.htm

    https://revisionfx.com/rstwixtortutorials.htm
    the Twixtor Basics tutorials,
    Under After Effects -> Frame Rates

    Good luck!
    -Shin

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