[Richard Boddington]

Ok, update, somehow the file got moved to my dropbox, so it has been put back on my hard drives and backed up. Phew.

Question remains though, even when I open today’s file and go file>Restore Project, I do not see any back ups from today.

Anyone know why this is?

Thanks
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[Richard Boddington]

In the Cinema Tools data base there is an option the connect the clip, so I did this for a few shots. After doing that I actually got the right ATC in my audio EDL from one of the shots!! First time that has happened. It didn’t work on the other shots though. And I must have messed up the settings on the one shot where it did work because it doesn’t work now 🙁

The viewer in Cinema Tools says my shots are 23.98, and gives me the option to conform them to 24fps. I tried this and the numbers are still off.

At this stage I need a FCP expert on this issue to take a look. It does seem to be a data base issue as I did get one shot to work at one stage of the game. So I know it’s possible to do.

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[Richard Boddington]

Yeah I really hope a manual EDL “type in” would be the last resort.

I see you are in TO. I am working out of Deluxe Toronto on this. Hopefully one of their techs can shed some light on this. If I don’t get a perfect match the EDL is of course useless.

The last thing I can think of is that I didn’t import my shots into FCP using a .flx file. I figured there was no need since Deluxe was making the dailies into files and not putting them onto DVCAM. Plus they made FCP data bases for each days dailies.

If I have to re-import my video using the .flx files that would be fine. I can easily re-assemble the show based on an edl from my current edit.

I’m going to compare the first frame of visual ATC with a clips record in the data base and see what I come up with.

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[Richard Boddington]

Matt,

Thanks for the response.

My audio is recorded by a separate deck and doesn’t have TC that resembles the video coming in from the HDSR tapes. I tried exporting a regular CMX 3600 EDL but it’s only looking at the time code in the video, not the audio time code from the original on set audio records.

So for instance I have a clip on the time line that has a video in of HDTC 07:03:09:23 and the audio time code in is ATC 18:27:37:13. I need an EDL that will read the ATC, not the HDTC. The audio I am using now for my off-line is just the DV audio that comes from the HD tapes as they synched the field records to each take.

My cinema tools audio EDL is showing me the right Clip name and take, and the right hour and minutes, it’s my seconds and frames that are off.

It may be a setting that’s off some place? I ensured that my data base shows audio record of 30 fps and video TC base of 24 fps, and it’s still off.

All I can think now is that the post house used 23.97 to lay down the film to HD, but I can only change the data base video speed to 24 fps, not 23.97. My seconds and frames are off by 2-3 seconds each time though so it seems like a large margin if it’s just a 24 vs 23.97 issue.

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[Richard Boddington]

I think I’ll just get the post house to pull a dub from my master with VTC.

I have so many problems with this. I need to make the time base 24fps. When I go to make the change in FCP 4, the project just crashes, every time.

When I make the change in FCP 3, the time line dissapears, and becomes greyed out so I can’t bring it back.

So much grief….a dub will work better.

Thanks
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[Richard Boddington]

I have Time Code Print in the effects menu, this puts VTC on the shot I have selected.

But of course it goes back to zero every time there is a shot change. So this must be where the “nesting” comes in?

How do I “nest” the show? Does all the video need to be on the same track to nest it?

Thanks
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[Richard Boddington]

Dang, I’m using FCP 4 and it’s not in the effects menu that I can see.

[Richard Boddington]

O’Tay, any idea where that is? It’s not in the video menu.

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[Richard Boddington]

Sorry, ended up with multiple posts.

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[Richard Boddington]

Ok well I tried loading a shot in FCP 3 and I have the right TC in my viewer.

Also I brought in the clips I loaded in FCP 4 into FCP 3, and I’m getting the right TC and the right numbers in the edl. Weird??????

Obviously there’s a setting off some place in FCP 4 that I can’t find. My other projects in FCP 4 are working right. When I bring a clip loaded today into an old FCP 4 project I have the same issue, wrong TC in the viewer window. It’s just control track, not the same as the VTC.

Ok well I guess I can load in 4, and cut in 3. Since it’s much faster to load in FCP as it saves direct to my external drive and FCP 3 is a bit of a pain in this area.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks
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