[Nicholas Zimmerman]

Went from a 1,1 default to a flashed 4970 which 10.6.3 broke. At that point I spent a week trying to fix it and eventually decided to save myself the trouble of dealing with this every OS update and went with the official 5870. Just upgraded to a 3,1 (great deal for 8 cores) and moved the card to it.

If I was stuck with the default card on the 1,1 I would have been screwed, but they didn’t put very good cards in their vanilla systems. These dual FirePros seem like they’ll have significantly longer shelf lives.

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[Nicholas Zimmerman]

Steve, that’s a strong sign in the positive for this. I’m willing to bet the display ships at the same time as the new system.

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[Nicholas Zimmerman]

[Jeremy Garchow] “We will call it JetPacPro.”

Where do I put in my credit card number?

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[Nicholas Zimmerman]

[Bill Davis] “Apple gives everyone what we’ve been waiting for. The promise of a new MacPro. With updated specs way beyond what we’ve had before.”

I’m a bit down about the upgrade options, but in general, it’s a lot more of a win than what we had before. Before this we had a machine that was stuck in purgatory, nobody knew if it would stay on sale or not (and the answer was “not” for Europe). But today, they announced that there is something really powerful on the way. The denial is over, I’m starting to get really excited, but I still have one lingering doubt… What about RAM upgrades / pricing?

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[Nicholas Zimmerman]

[Jeremy Garchow] “I am also curious about Resolve performance unless Adobe can get some serious Speedgrade workflow love going soon.”

I think Resolve is going to be one of my biggest reasons to get the new Mac Pro. At the moment I’m on a 3,1 8 core with a Radeon 5870 1GB, and I average between 10-20 fps, I’ve got no doubt that the new machine will absolutely blow that away.

The new machine really isn’t what I was hoping for, but I’m sure it will be fast enough that I won’t have any regrets. I am really glad I bought the Intensity Pro now, as I’m going to have to switch to TB I/O.

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[Nicholas Zimmerman]

I was planning to buy the new machine day & date. I waited four years with a 1,1 in the hopes it would receive a decent update, and finally last week I bought a used 3,1 to bide the time until the new one. Now I’m feeling a bit lost. Not sure if I’ll get the new one or just build a Hackintosh at this point. I really don’t have a need for a small desktop, that’s why it’s at my desk.

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[Nicholas Zimmerman]

[Nicholas Zimmerman] “I honestly can’t see any”

[Nicholas Zimmerman] “It just doesn’t make any sense to me“

Both were personal statements. What I see every day, the people that I deal with, only stick with 7 because they know it and aren’t willing to learn a new system. I understand that there are exceptions to this, you being one of them. These are students, and if they’re already this complacent, I fear for their futures. Knowing that the software you use is EOL should scare the bageezus out of anyone, and it seems irresponsible to not at least learn something that has a future of use ahead of it, be it MC, Premiere, or X. At this point the number of 7 editors is only shrinking by the day.

Knowing what I know, with the experiences that I’ve had, I feel sticking with 7 is, for the most part, a terrible idea. The entire reason for starting this was because the naming of the forums is both out of date, and demeaning to FCPX. Whether or not anyone likes it, FCPX is the current version of Final Cut Pro, and has been for almost two years. Yet when somebody posts anything about the living FCP in the FCP forum, they are told to go elsewhere. I get that a lot of people are still upset about X, but that doesn’t change that it is the modern Final Cut Pro, and that 7 is EOL.

This type of thing only continues the stigma that grew from FCPX’s awful launch. It’s been almost two years, and for such a young program, FCPX has matured by leaps and bounds. Even if they switched the names to Apple Final Cut Pro 1-7 and Apple Final Cut Pro X, that would be enough. But the current setup of “This is for Apple Final Cut Pro” and “This is for Apple FCPX Techniques” just doesn’t seem right to me.

We live in an industry that changes very rapidly. Who knows if Avid will survive the decade, let alone the next 2 years. Will Adobe flounder under the weight of their Creative Cloud debacle? What will Apple unveil tomorrow, will it be the end of the “real” Mac Pro? We don’t know these answers. No matter what happens we’ll still have to put food on the table, which means we’ll have to adapt.

Adaptation and constant learning should be celebrated merits among us.

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[Nicholas Zimmerman]

[Herb Sevush] “at the moment, given my workflow, none of the alternatives comes close to giving me the speed and flexibility of Legacy”

That’s a shame.

[Herb Sevush] “I still need tape in and out, so there goes any desire for FCPX”

I think Apple were just a few years too early to kill this feature. I’ll either ingest in 7 or Resolve and print out of either one too.

[Herb Sevush] “99% of my material is Quicktime ProRes which does not need rendering in FCP7”

So long as you don’t add any filters, color correction, composite layers.

[Herb Sevush] “I need very robust multi-cam, so that throws out PPro”

X’s multicam is much better than 7’s. I did a concert gig with 5 HD cameras, output from the live switcher, and audio from the mixing board. Some cameras turned on and off throughout. X was able to give me a multicam clip from all of these, and it was perfect. I dread the thought of doing that on 7.

[Herb Sevush] “I like the ability to “send” to Motion so there’s Legacy over X again”

I’m pretty sure you’re not alone in wanting this.

[Herb Sevush] “What you can’t see is simply a testament to your limitations and lack of vision.”

Excuse you? Limitations… lack of vision… how exactly would you expect to have even the slightest clue as to either of those? I had a dog in the races for FCP7, I’d been using it since 4HD, and had become incredibly fast with it. I was also well aware of how suffocating it’s limitations could be.

I see plenty of people every day without any of the valid reasons you described to stick with 7. They’re always complaining about “Oh this DSLR footage is taking forever” and “Why does it always take five hours to render.” I’m in a school environment at the moment, and these students have a complete freedom of choice in what to edit in, but even in a school environment, they don’t want to learn anything new. They don’t have the years of experience, investments in infrastructure, etc, that keep you there. Most of them took 1-2 classes two years ago, barely passed them, and now trudge away in 7 with sloppy sequences, spread across multiple drives. Their only reason not for switching is that they “know” 7, which in all honesty they don’t. They know how to stumble around 7 endlessly until something finally works.

My hobby for the last three years has been to take advantage of my time back in school by learning as much as I could. I’m constantly on Lynda.com, Ripple Training, and lately Curious Turtle (Mocha training). I’ve tried to gain a working knowledge of a wide variety of programs, which has helped me to always choose the right one for each job. It’s allowed me to be nimble with software, and not stuck to the whims of a company that might kill your breadwinner (Apple) or hold your software hostage (Adobe). Yet I’m constantly surrounded by people that say “I want to learn it, but I don’t have time right now.” Then you see them at a bar the next night. People don’t seem to realize that they can’t simply rest on the knowledge they already have and remain competitive.

Look Herb, you’ve got your reasons for sticking with 7, I understand that. That doesn’t give you any right to pretend that you know about my limitations or vision. Frankly it’s insulting. An apology or explanation of why I don’t deserve one is in order.

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[Nicholas Zimmerman]

[Bret Williams] “Why not call it FCP 1-7 forum, and FCP X forum? Lose the techniques thing. That never made any sense.”

Basically what I would like to see as well.

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[Nicholas Zimmerman]

I do love my Mac Mini. I can see the use for this in a ton of things, just not GPUs yet. As a proof of concept it has me intrigued for sure.

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