[Neil Gelinas]

Jim, I have and thank you so much. Appreciate the help. I’m going to try to get to it today. It still seems odd that the FRC and the Import Panny P2 functions won’t remove the duplicate frames. I wonder if it’s a bug. Clearly, the media DVCPRO 720 24p.

But yes, your solution seems like a definite good one, and right now, my only real one. Thank you very much for the advice. Much appreciated.

[Neil Gelinas]

Thanks, Douglass, appreciate the response. It needs to be in 23.98 becuase that’s what the rest of the show was shot in with a Varicam or HDX900. Simply dropping it into a 23.98 timeline makes for long render time, especially once adding effects, motion, etc…the editors are going nuts. Use compressor? To do what?

[Neil Gelinas]

I’m not trying to get rid of one frame. I’m trying to get rid of the entire 3:2 cadence with pulldown. There has to be an easier / cleaner way to do this. I’ve done it before from the Firestore. If this means going back to FCP 5.1.2 or 5.0.4, I will. This is just a silly / simple problem that is being a real pain in the butt for some reason. Perhaps, I’m just missing something obvious.

[Neil Gelinas]

It’s none of these things. I can compare clips by simply looking at the format. Resolution, data rate, pixel aspect – it’s all the same. I trashed prefs – didn’t do anything. It’s not an audio issue, because it’s the video that needs to be rendered. I’ve tried this on all 14 of our sytems, and they all produce the same result. Thanks for suggestion though.

[Neil Gelinas]

Yes, Dave. Sorry to confuse. I meant dropped frames. Even so, this really has nothing to do with why i have to render these quicktimes.

[Neil Gelinas]

Alright, so at the end of the day, I guess what I’m missing is this dialogue box that prompts at import to remove the duplicate frames, which is available in 5.1 but not 5.0.4.

However, my problem being there are still issue with P2 footage imported into 5.0.4 when using 5.1 as pointed out here by Shane Ross –

https://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/new_read_post.cgi?forumid=193&postid=860527

I already have about a terabyte of footage imported with 5.0.4 for the series we’re presently working on. I guess maybe I’ll upgrade a few systems leaving most on 5.0.4, and hopefully, all will be well when 5.1.2 is released.

Barry, by the way, your book is great and has really come in handy out in the field. Thanks.

-neil

[Neil Gelinas]

Appreciate the response, Jeremy. But this is exactly what I’m trying to avoid. The problems I’ve talked about come from this process: losing audio and having to do this process clip by clip individually.

[Neil Gelinas]

I’m not saying you would have trouble with 5.1. There are improvements. However, there have been problems with P2 quicktimes in 5.1 that were imported in 5.0.4. I heard that from Shane Ross on the Cow:

https://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/new_read_post.cgi?forumid=193&postid=860527

I’m not about to reimport all of our P2 footage just so we can be on 5.1. I know this is unfortunate, but I think we’re just going to have to wait for this show’s post production season to end.

So Noah, you don’t happen to have any solution for getting ready to go 24P from the Firestore? Or maybe not ready-to-go, but something easier than running each and every clip individually through the frame rate converter and then resyncing sound?

Regardless, appreciate you trying to help.

[Neil Gelinas]

No, it can’t. It won’t remove the frames and it can’t record 24pN.

[Neil Gelinas]

Noah, to be a bit clearer, I am shooting in 24P, but the Firestore records it as 59.94 with flagged frames, hence I have to use the frame rate converter.