Marisu Fronc
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Hey Brian-
I empathize . . .hopefully you didn’t have any of the “I said i sved but I didn’t” ones – those are the WORST!
marisu
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Oh and BTW – if you want to see inefficiency in clips – try digitizing an imported EDL . . . now there’s a place where it would be WONDERFUL to have less sources . . .
slainte,
marisu -
Actually, it’s known as CHOICE – say I need healthy food shots – I have a folder of about 1000 different choices that gets imported into the job (not including anything that may have been shot for that job) WHY, so that when someone says that portion is too large OR do you have something more ethnic OR I don’t know, let me see what you’ve got they have choices – and that’s just healthy food – then you add unhealthy choices, grocery store choices, people actually eating the food . . . pretty soon you have several thousand food shots. In a collaborative environment (especially one where lots of divergent opinions get expressed (and have to be taken into consideration) the more choices you have the easier it is to get a consensus (and yes, you do need to reach one). There are often different versions required for a particular customer – but not desired by the majority – again more choices. Believe me, if there was an easier way I’d love to find it. I must say, however, that it is not impossible to manage by nature, I have used this workflow for a number of years BEFORE switching to Premiere, and the number of sources in the database was never a problem . . . to tell you the truth, I’m not sure that is the problem here, it seems to be, instead, hinged on the way Premiere uses and more importantly RELEASES RAM.
slainte,
marisu -
Vincent-
Unfortunately splitting it into smaller projects isn’t really an option – you’d just end up with 4 or 5 projects each with almost the same number of clips (the only difference would be fewer timelines and a couple of VO tracks). The extra time it would take to open and shut each one (at up to ten minutes apiece) would probably mean about the same amount of wasted time as having to periodically shut premiere and reopen it.
slainte,
marisu -
Although by going SLOWLY and saving frequently (and shifting focus from Premiere occasionally to let it purge more RAM than it normally will on its own) they usually end up hanging, freezing and not responding
OKAY, my typing is not at its best – after the ) I left out – they work okay for awhile, but
Hope that clarifies my sentence
marisu
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Vincent-
No, just a large number of clips – a fairly standard job usually has around 25,000 source files (no oddball formats, no weird audio, nothing on the machine except the production suite, max usuable ram, no dynamic links to ae, etc). The renders are not excessive – mostly short dissolves and the occasional lower third, usually 4 or 5 working sequences at a time ranging from 20 – 60 minutes apiece. Although by going SLOWLY and saving frequently (and shifting focus from Premiere occasionally to let it purge more RAM than it normally will on its own) they usually end up hanging, freezing and not responding (and after about a 5 minutes of that I’m out of time and the reboot is coming). Once you get into the SERIOUS rendering (for final color corrected output with the mix) it can turn into a nightmare just getting a continuous playout.
slainte,
marisu -
Is your audio set to play thru the desktop or thru an external device? Check the setting in preferences and make sure it’s correct.
marisu
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TrB-
I’d try deleting (or moving somewhere else) the animated gif you imported, 90% of the time I’ve found that the last imported piece of art BEFORE the save is the one that killed the project (and after watching the artists here try reloading Premiere, etc each time BEFORE trying this quick test I’d recommend it as a first, not last, step). It will open the project with the file off-line – then you can try to reimport it and save the project with a new name (to see if the problem recurrs)
slainte,
marisu -
David-
FWIW I have found some tricks that are working to minimize my frustration with large projects. First (I did this last, don’t make yourself miserable) add a gig of RAM – 3 GB did help (in fact, it made one particular timeline play back for the first time in weeks!!). Keep task manager open and when your page file usage gets too high (ie: you know that the lockup or crash is coming) touch task manager and switch focus away from Premiere, then toggle back and immediately render and save (this one is great for the out of memory render errors and the couldn’t render but don’t know why errors). Always save before playing back a complex timeline – that seems to ease some of the RAM usage and lets you play through without a hitch. There are others, but these three have managed to save me from continual frustration and now I only have a once or twice a day reboot on the big projects.
I can’t imagine how anyone would get any work done with other things running on the same box (even stuff like anti-virus), I try not to even open After Effects and Premiere at the same time (so much for integration).
slainte,
marisu -
The easiest thing to do would be to rename and letter designate your new hard drive to match the one you replaced (that is – the “borrowed” drive was named ‘backup 5’ and its letter designation was V – go into disk manager and rename the new drive as “backup 5” and change its letter to V – Pro should then find everything just where it wants it to be.
slainte,
marisu