John Rofrano
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OK, I’m way confused now. I misread your original post. I thought the NTSC disc had no audio but now I realize that you said that it had music with no commentary. Forget about the WAV thing… you made them AC3 and that was the correct thing to do. (BTW, yes… PCM is WAV format)
I also just went back to re-read your post and originally I thought the two discs were fine when you played them but not when your friend played them. Is that the case? Do they behave differently for your friend? Or do they not play right for you too?
You said that that the MOV file is not giving you audio. The first thing is to make sure the project plays back on the timeline before you render to any DVD format. Is the project playing back correctly? Just trying to figure out if the audio was ever correct.
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> Every other edit system I’ve used (AVID, Premeire, Sony DNE 700) have audio frame scrubbing.
Yea it’s not that you can’t do audio scrubbing in Vegas. It’s just that you can’t assign it to a key and so can’t automate it with the Shuttle Pro. As Douglas said, you can drag the rate slider or you can click the CTI and drag it across the timeline with the mouse to scrub back and forth. You just can’t do it with a key stroke.
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No, not frame-by-frame. The inner jog wheel scrubs frames silently. This is a Vegas limitation of frame scrubbing.
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On the NTSC disc did you use WAV audio or MPG audio? I believe the NTSC DVD spec does not allow MPG audio, just WAV and AC3. Most US DVD players support MPG audio but they don’t have to. Maybe in PAL countries they don’t? Double-check what audio format you used.
BTW, the PAL DVD spec does allow MPG audio. So if both discs use MPG audio it would explain why one plays fine and the other doesn’t. (I don’t think DVD Architect Studio supports AC3)
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> If I am correct then it is more likely that Vegas doesn’t have the licencing to import AC-3.
You are correct that Sony has made a conscious effort NOT to import AC3. Early on this was because there was no reason to import AC3 unless you were pirating DVD’s. Then Sony DVD cameras started shooting AC3 and so they had to allow it but they only do it under the Import Camcorder Disc option. Now it seems strange that one way it works and another way it doesn’t. I don’t think it’s a licensing issue. It’s just where we are with Vegas.
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It should have definitely looked better than your SD footage and letting DVD Architect convert the footage to MPEG2 may have actually used different parameters than doing it from Vegas so it is possible that the DVD Architect could look different.
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What is unacceptable about it? Does it look as good as the DVD’s you’ve created from SD footage? You can’t expect 6Mbps SD at 720×480 to look as good as 25Mbps HDV at 1920×1080. It’s 5x less information and it’s a big difference. I think the DVD’s that I make from my HDV footage look better than my SD footage and all I do is render with the NTSC DVD Architect Widescreen video stream template.
Also, what are you viewing it on to determine the quality? An SD DVD on a 50″ HDTV is going to look worse than on a 40″ which will look worse than a 32″. In other words, the more you have to scale the SD the worse it will look. Are you using a DVD player that upscales SD to HD? That also make a difference in the quality you will see.
Bottom line it should look better than other SD DVD’s you have made but don’t expect it to approach HD quality.
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> I’m not asking how it’s done, but isn’t this a typical workflow ??? …
It’s typical only if you plan to use proxies to edit.
> Am I missing something here ?
No you are not missing any steps but if you have lots of AVCHD files it may become very tedious to render all of those proxies and to swap back and forth between them and the original AVCHD footage without a utility like VASST GearShift to help you.
> If not, why does everyone gripe about AVCHD files ?
Because they don’t want to spend the time making proxies. They want to edit the native footage.
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> do you know how to keep it SD then? so it can maintain the same quality.
In general, if you are working in an odd format like FRAPS video, you should set your project to match your source footage using the Match Media Settings button in the Project Properties. Do all of your editing and then output to a format that is equal to or less than your original footage in resolution.
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OK, I see the confusion now. When you save the properties it is only saving the video properties not the audio properties. That’s why the audio keeps going back to 48K. You will need to set the audio to 44.1K and check the box to save that as the default, or else you will have to change it when you need to. The video properties save is only for the video tab.
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