[John Rofrano]

> but i see a dvd created by another videographer in my city how works with sony vegas 8 and dvd arhitect 4.5 and the dvd looking the same in TV and PC. how is this possible??

If he is using a software DVD player on this PC to preview the DVD, it is doing the deinterlacing for him. Vegas will also deinterlace when you use your PC as a secondary monitor (although there is an option to turn this on and off)

> and another question is how is the original movies maked ???

If you mean “Hollywood” movies, they are shot on film at 24 fps and usually converted to DVD as 24p.

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[John Rofrano]

> when i render in vegas the endresult its the best that i ever see but i put the rendered file in DVD arhitect the result is not good i can see the pixels like some interlace flicker

Is this just on your PC monitor or are you monitoring to an external NTSC or PAL monitor? If it’s on your PC monitor then have you burned a DVD to see how it looks? PC’s are not interlaced devices so you may see things that won’t be seen in the final DVD.

Also, if you have very small horizontal lines you may get interlace flicker. This is unavoidable because of the nature of interlaced video. A line that is the height of one field will only display half of the time and flicker on and off as a result.

Burn a DVD and see how it looks. That’s the true test.

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[John Rofrano]

Vegas comes with it’s own MP3 encoder. You probably messed things up by installing one of your own. I would just uninstall your MP3 codec and re-install Vegas so that it can re-establish it’s own codecs and everything will probably work fine after that.

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You don’t need to render at all of you buy Vegas Pro. You can work on each section as a separate project and then drop them all into a master project as nested projects and Vegas will render them all together for you. This gives you the flexibility to modifying the individual projects without ever having to re-render. I work like this all the time with Chroma Key.

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I have not done this but what I have done to avoid surprises like this in the past is to set my project properties to match my output format. If you are going to print to 4:3 tape then set your project to 4:3 and adjust everything to fit and there will be no surprises.

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Where are these files coming from? A 25GB MPEG2 file is HUGE!

There is no reason to use the import menu at all. Just drag and drop the files from Windows directly into the Project Media bin.

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> My settings are: -capturing the video from mini dv casettes in a dv avi uncompressed format for my PC

DV AVI is not uncompressed. DV25 is the compression codec that is being used. What you have after capture is interlaced PAL DV footage (regardless of what you shot on the Sony Z7).

> -Sony vegas project settings:
-PAL dv
-frame rate:25.000(PAL)
-field order:none
-pixel format:8 bit
-full resolution rendering quality:best
-motion blur type:gaussian
-deinterlace method:none

It seems that you are causing this problem by changing the project defaults without knowing the consequences. You captured interlaced footage yet you set your project field order to none and set your deinterlaced method to none. Just use the defaults that Vegas provides.

> IN Sony Vegas every in every film sequence is checked the reduse interlace flicker option, and the field order is set to none.
The renderin settings:dv avi
-frame rate:25.000(PAL)
-frame size:720×576
-field order:none
-video format:dv avi(PAL)

Once again you have changed the default setting by changed the field order to none. You are seeing the interlacing because you told Vegas it was progressive footage when it wasn’t so it simply displays the interlace lines.

Try using the defaults: Set your project to PAL DV and don’t change any default settings. Render to PAL MPEG2 and don’t change any settings. Vegas will do the right thing by default.

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> I find myself contemplating selling the EX1 and going back to the Z7

This is really very strange and puzzling. I have seen several of these posts where Sony EX1 shooters are complaining about not being able to get a good SD downconvert. I have a Sony Z1 and my downconverted DVD’s are spectacular. Far superior to anything an SD camera could have produced. You even said yourself that your Sony Z7 did a better job. How could this be? And the fact that you tried other NLE’s and got the same results all points to something about the Sony EX1 footage but that defies logic. How could the footage be the issue?

I wonder if it’s a PAL issue? Both NTSC and PAL HD are 1920×1080 yet NTSC gets resized to 780×480 while the same PAL image gets resized to 720×576. 1080 / 480 = 2.25 while 1080 / 576 = 1.875. Perhaps it’s the conversion of this .875 that causes the softening of the image. It’s not an even number like .25 (which is 1/4 frame). But that wouldn’t explain why your Z7 gave good results. 🙁

Sorry I don’t have any answers but it’s odd that a lot of EX1 shooters are complaining about this same issue that the rest of us HD shooters don’t seem to have.

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Not a silly question at all. You actually can’t just set your project to progressive and use it on a DVD. The DVD spec only allows for one progressive format and that’s 24p. So unless you render 24p from Vegas, DVD Architect will re-encode your video to 60i (or 50i if you are in a PAL country).

To answer your question, yes your progressive footage will play on all sets because the DVD player will interlace the video on-the-fly if the TV it is attached to cannot support progressive display.

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If the DVD is greater than 2GB I would not worry about shrinking it, just tell the customer to by a 4GB USB drive (they cost a wapping $12!). Then just copy the contents of the DVD to the drive. That’s pretty much it. DVD software should see the drive as a DVD since it will have a \VIDEO_TS folder just like a regular DVD.

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