[John Livings]

Hi Thax,

Please take a look this.

https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/30/854719#854729

Also if you Google “df vs. ndf” you will get the bottom line, And that is in about 1 hour the time codes will differ about 4 seconds (The actual amount of frames will be the same if the only difference is DF vs. NDF)

I agree, Some projects require no syncing, they match up, Others don’t.

I may be incorrect on this.

John

[John Livings]

Hi Sal,

This post might be to late for you , but here goes…

I would agree that that things may drift out of sync.

My first choice would be to “Pull” the sound off the Main mixer, Meaning use the Tape Out to your recorder.

Also if you can record to your Camera using a longer cable and a boom pole for your Mic, That would be a good thing. This could turn out to be your best Audio recording.

It’s actually kind of simple to match up Video and Audio if you can do the following; (This also works real well for Multi- Camera Shoots if you have time code breaks) W/O TC breaks use FCP Multi cam filter.

1. Start Video and Audio a couple of minutes before anything happens, About a minute before the action starts use a clapboard or hand clap that is IN-FOCUS and is picked up by the audio recorder.

2. Record Video and Audio… Action stops, wait a minute or so with the camera and audio running, And use the clapboard again the same as before. And if you can, Don’t start and stop cameras or recorders during the shoot. (No time code breaks)

This makes it a little easier it to match things up in post.

Many reasons to be out of Sync, I will List a few.— 1. DF vs. NDF settings on cameras, recorders and your NLE system settings—Digital tape—Tape transporters—Etc.

Also Lock the Video track and edit the audio track, One of the reasons is that in FCP you can only move the video 1 Frame and the audio 1/100 of a Frame.( Or something like that)

Good Luck

[John Livings]

Hi Allen,

The main 2 books I study For Recording and Cleaning up Audio are:

Audio Postproduction for Film and Video, Second Edition (DV Expert Series) (Paperback)

Producing Great Sound for Film and Video, Third Edition (DV Expert Series) (Paperback)

Both by Jay Rose

I bought mine at Amazon, Used.

Most Helpful, I recommend BOTH.

This forum is also great along with the Broadcast Video forum

Just my opinion,

John

[John Livings]

Thanks Jerry,

I forgot that little detail.

John

[John Livings]

Thanks Eric,

Thats what I was thinking.

John

[John Livings]

Thanks Ty,

John

[John Livings]

Hi Ty,

Sorry I was not more clear.

1- I am looking for a recommendation for a lav mic.

2- I am looking for a recommendation for an over the ear mic.

Which ever type that will work best for the above requirements.

I am not asking for a lav mic that will double as an over the ear mic.

Again sorry for the confusion.

John

[John Livings]

Hi Engel,

I know this is very basic, however Be sure you have new batteries and the mic is turned on.

John

[John Livings]

Hi Ty,

Thanks for responding, Yes, one is from a PD-150 and the other is from a DSR-500.

I have looked at the MKH-416 for years, If it were in the budget, I would own 4 of the mics.

Again Thanks, John

[John Livings]

Hi Rob and Ty,

Rob, Thanks for the referral I will give them a call.

Ty, The sony mics are #1-542-296 and EMC-NV1

Again Thanks, John