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Bravo –
I had my own list but didn’t want to turn this into a political thread.
Glad you did.
Herb Sevush
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Jeremy –
I missed the EOS 1DX announcement. Does it have HD-SDI out while shooting? I tried looking at reviews and didn’t see it mentioned.
Herb Sevush
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[Chris Conlee] “And show me an example of government efficiency, please.”
I wasn’t trying to make this a political discussion, I said that rhetorically. And if you actually read the line I didn’t say government was more efficient, I just said that big business wasn’t a model of efficiency that I cared to emulate.
But if you’d like my answer to your question I’d be glad to offer it to you off-line.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Look what they did, they gave a true video camera in a Cinema style package that most every preDSLR DP has come to rely on, such as better onboard audio recording, timecode, and the ability to send and receive various signals to various on set departments/gear.”
I’m not denigrating the camera in any way, I’m criticizing the marketing idea behind making the camera.
Yes, they made a pro video camera at a pro video price. And how does that distinguish them from the Sony F3? Why would I buy a camera from a company with a history of failure in the pro video market and no pro video distribution when I could deal with companies like SONY, Panasonic and Red.
The DSLR revolution gave Canon a unique market niche which they have steadfastly ignored for over 2 years. Now their brilliant idea is to throw away that niche to compete with other companies in the other companies marketplace with a very good, but not unique camera, while at the same time ignoring the original market that brought them to prominence in the first place.
Jeremy you know much more about cameras than I do. I am not a DP by any means, but I direct them and then work with the results of their labors. I know how loath many of them are to trust their workflow with untested vendors. To my mind cameramen are much more conservative with their tools than are post people. I just don’t see what Canon is doing.
As always, time will tell. People vote with their wallets and in this case nobodies waiting for the upgrade to come out.
So tell me, is your company going to buy one?
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Mark Dobson] “but there is a Full Frame new Canon video DSLR (4K) in development which will draw on the same technology. It will be with us within the next year and I’m sure that that’s when most people will upgrade from their 5Ds.”
Full frame 35 which is about a quarter the size of a 5D. I don’t use them very often but I know the difference – to me the 5D was worth the hassle, the 7D was not. There is no reason to pick a 7D over a Panasonic GH2, which is much better equipped for shooting video, but the same cannot be said for the 5D. The large sensor makes a difference, and designing their new cameras with just full frame sensors is idiotic.
[Mark Dobson] “The Canon XF Mpeg2 4:2:2 50Mbs codec will become as ubiquitous as Pro-Res is now.”
I assume your joking here.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Oliver Peters] “They have also been quite dissatisfied with the level of control and amount of rigging they have to do to get a viable “production” camera. These folks have spent thousands on Zacuto and RedRock accessories and Zeiss or Canon glass.
This is the market Canon is trying to address. It’s the same market Sony is trying to address with the F3. In fact, you now have 3 similar cameras in that field: C300, F3 and Scarlet-X. Essentially the “mini-Alexa”, “mini-F65” or “mini-Epic” market.”
My point is if your going to drop 20K on a comparatively featured video camera, are you going to give it to Canon or Sony. Canon or Panasonic. Canon or Red.
Canon already tried to be a player in the video market and failed years ago. Now, despite themselves, they are the market leader in the DSLR market. Instead of either
A) Improving the performance of the 5D, or
B) bring their low costs and larger sensor size to the pro video market they decide to
C) go head to head with Sony and Panasonic on their Pro turf, with a camera that directly competes with both the AF100 and the F3, and that doesn’t take advantage of the uniquely large sensor size of the 5D.
Years ago I was shopping HD camera’s at NAB with a DP and I saw a JVC camera that I thought was the most bang for the buck. The DP flat out refused to consider it saying in his market he couldn’t show up with a camera that had JVC on it and expect to make his rate. At least the JVC was cheap. What’s so special about the C300 that will allow Canon to break into that circle?
Herb Sevush
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[tony west] “Like X or not, I don’t think there is any question they are going to make money off it.”
But will they make more money off it then they would have made with the FCP8 of my dreams? I’m not sure about that.
They’ve discarded a high paying, hardware intensive market that already exists for an imagined mass market of smaller margins and fewer hardware requirements. Time alone will tell if it was the right move from a financial standpoint. I’m not yet convinced that such a mass market exists in the window between Imovie and Avid/PPro.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/20157
The nice thing about you Gerald is that you seem to be exactly the person Mike Jones was writing about in the blog that started this thread.
Would all you multi-hyphenate, DSLR shooting, one-man-band, editor / director / screenwriter / colour-grader / filmmakers, with your ultra-shallow depth-of-field, Vimeo hosted music-video showreels – who have never actually had a paid professional gig in your life – please, for the love of God, (censored)…!
Please Stop blogging, please Stop tweeting, please Stop dispensing advice or setting up websites with your ‘pro’ techniques and commentary, please Stop propagating fallacy and ignorance, please Stop offering your opinions on what is or isn’t Cinematic, Please Stop signing your signature with a litany of job titles just because you own a fist-full of software plug-ins and a Mac. Please Stop Pretending…
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Jeremy Garchow] “It’s so wonderful”
It’s so interesting.
“The proper study of Mankind is Man.” A.Pope
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Jeremy Garchow] “There is nothing to learn from here.”
Sure there is … human nature.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf