Herb Sevush
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“This leads me to want to make all sorts of speculative comments, which I will refrain from doing.”
Oh, go ahead, it’s a slow Friday, besides, without some wild speculations how could we be sure it’s you.
Herb Sevush
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“Probably because tv runs @ 60Hz in the US.”
I assume you meant that electricity runs at 60Hz. Since Showscan was primarily a theatrical concept I don’t see why this would be germane, but i don’t have a better reason.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Why stop @ 48? Why not go to 72(75) or 96(100)!!!! 😉
Trumbull didn’t stop at 48 he went straight to 60. At the presentation, which took place at the Ziegfeld Theater in NY, he had a reason for 60 but I don’t remember what it is now.
It is true that being a slave to backward compatibility is often a nuisance – see, now where back to FCPX but I’m arguing for your side now — bite my tongue.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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“I would be interested in seeing 48p in both acquisition and delivery. There’s no question that p is better than i.”
Showscan was 60 FPS 65mm acquisition and projection. It was amazingly vivid.
“Remember 24p wasn’t crated for aesthetics, it was a technical limitation at the time.”
That is both the truth and my argument at the time, but you will be amazed at how many people argue that 24 is some sort of mystical perfect frame rate.
As far as bandwidth goes why stop at 24, with digital audio why not go down to 18, which was the speed generally settled on before the advent of sound. Apocryphally, the only reason that frame rate wasn’t lower was that slower rates triggered epileptic seizures in the audience. In any case 18 fps provides a clean illusion of motion.
Trumbull’s argument was that the media business always went for the cheapest (and worst) possible standard that the audience would accept, but why not give them a much higher standard and see if they will pay for it. 48 fps converts more neatly to PAL so it would probably makes the most sense.
Herb Sevush
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Pardon my stupidity, but with the benefits of Thunderbolt obvious even to me, why hasn’t there been more acceptance of Tbolt in the PC world? Is it a licensing question ?
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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“I would like to know any other industry that gets these kinds of insane “job” postings”
Coaching. It’s not unusual for young coaches to work for years as an unpaid assistant logging 80 hours a week and have to supply their own car to pick up recruits at the airport. My son is getting 5K a year this season and it’s a step up. I told him he picked the one field worse than mine.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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fantastic article, I’m still trying to digest some of it. Thanks for pointing me to it.
As an aside, I loved the discussion of frame rates. I went to a lecture by Doug Trumbull about Showscan and believe wholeheartedly that an increase in projected frame rate would be an incredible advance, although i doubt it will ever happen. The discussion about the so called “magic” of 24 fps reminded me of many a futile argument I had on the Cow on this subject when 720P60 first became a standard.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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To amplify on this subject I would suggest that some people have greater genetic ability in certain areas – visual, audio, linguistic. As such you might find prodigies in music, poetry and the visual arts – it’s not hard to find someone with a natural eye for composition, an ear for music or a flair for writing.
I will leave aside the whole notion of the importance of combining those gifts with the gift to learn and the gift to work hard and say instead that there is no such gift for making movies, because there is no single skill that is involved.
There is no part of the brain that is mapped for filmmaking the way there is for audio, visual and language. There is no part of the brain mapped for dramatic narrative. The ability to make a great movie involves all sorts of different talents – you don’t have to be gifted visually (see Billy wilder) you don’t have to be gifted linguistically (see Alfred Hitchcock) and while it’s not unusual for filmmakers to be musicians it is by no means the rule.
It is rare to find great films by young people (Welles and Spielberg come first to mind) and there are no Mozarts of the cinema that I am aware of.
Gerald spoke of developing “taste” as an aspect of creativity but taste is something that is absolutely not genetic, it’s an acquired appreciation developed over time. There’s an old saying something to the effect that the way to know whether a painting is good or not is to first look at a million other paintings (Gladwell would reduce this to 10,000 I’m sure).
As for why most movies suck, well there’s plenty of blame to go around, but one thing is for sure, most sets in Hollywood are filled with people of enormous natural talent, from the on screen talent to the production crew to those working in post. Neither talent nor good intentions can override a system where movies are supervised by committees who are in turn supervised by other committees. A camel is a horse designed by a committee.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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“Bigger sensor is just a burden when you are recording 1080.”
Why do you say that? I’m not doubting you, I’m asking out of ignorance.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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You had me ready to take back my whole argument for a moment. But no, Canon hasn’t let me down.
They have a large base of users who have made them the darlings of the indie video world. These users are clamoring for HD-SDI out and pro audio. Do they get it – apparently not. That would be too easy.
Instead Canon wants to go compete in the pro market -OK, why not. But can’t you do both? Why ignore your base, the folks who put you in a position to make this move in the first place? Most of them can’t afford a 15-20K camera, no matter what the features.
I still don’t get it.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf