Don Greening
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You can start by reading the thread at the link below because that person is seeking similar advice even though it’s for a stage show.
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/142/872212
You need to increase the camera’s dynamic range and the thread will help you to do that. Be advised that all of the gammas settings save for cinegamma 2 apparently all go to 109% IRE so there may be some detail left in your highlights even if you feel you’ve already clipped them at 100%.
[Paul Zwicker] “Would you keep the auto-white on to assist changing light temps?”
If you’re shooting outside all the time then your white balance will be close to a constant 3200K. When you create a colour profile just use that for your custom white temp.
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[Patrick McLoad] “Selecting this seems to put all clips in a task que, and it looks as though each clip is being imported from the card onto the computer….but I can never find these files after the SxS card has been ejected.”
If you’re using XDCAM Transfer, which I assume you are, then in the XDCAM Transfer preferences window you can choose where your transferred files can go by creating a specific folder on your hard drive and pointing XDCAM Transfer to that folder. The default folder, I believe, is the Documents folder on your system drive.
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A couple of hours ago I did a similar test and found the same thing: only Cine 2 gets stopped at 100% while the other 7 go past. So, until I hear differently from Alister (left him a question to clarify) I’ll now assume that all the gammas with the exception of Cine 2 can go to 109%.
Thanks for your help, Craig.
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The text in that article is basically a carbon copy of what he says in the YouTube tutorial:
“Because of this Sony have allowed the peak white levels of Cinegammas 1, 3 and 4 to go up to 109%. If you are not going to grade your pictures then you should only use a standard gamma or cinegamma 2 which IS restricted to broadcast safe 100% .”
If all the gammas other than cinegamma 2 are allowed to go to 109% why didn’t he say so? Instead he just singled out Cine 1, 3 and 4. Why does manual knee only work with the standard gammas if they too are allowed to go to 109%. Why does he talk about using the standard gammas and Cine 2 if you’re not going to grade? Is it because all 4 are clipped to 100% ?.
Maybe I’m just not getting this but if you’re correct and only Cine 2 is clipped to 100% then I find Alister’s statements quite ambiguous. I don’t care if I’m right or wrong but what I do care about is passing accurate and true information on to people that are asking the questions.
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Well not according to Alister Chapman. So I guess one of these two people are wrong.
https://www.xdcam-user.com/?page_id=13
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[Craig Seeman] “Note that the white actually clips at 109%, not 100% which is where Zebra 2 triggers.”
Cinegammas 1, 3 and 4 are the only gamma curves that record up to 109% and then only if your picture gain is set to 0 (zero). All the rest will clip at 100% because they’re the ones recommended for broadcast safe recording.
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[David Hamilton] “FCP’s log and transfer tool doesn’t display any errors, it simply does not pull it into the transfer window, though it pulls the other files around it…”
Okay thanks, David. I’ve never used Log and Transfer so I was curious to know what happens when it encounters issues.
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[David Hamilton] “The log and transfer pulls files from before the files in the sequence and after but not these in particular.”
Try Sony’s XDCAM Transfer Tool. I’ve heard of problems with Sony’s Log and Transfer that were solved with Sony’s XDCAM Transfer Tool. You can find it here:
https://support.sonybiz.ca/esupport/eSupportHome.asp
You’re looking for the file called: XDCAM Transfer for Final Cut Pro PDZK-P1 V2.11
It’s second from the bottom of the page. You can use XDCAM Transfer as a stand-alone app or within FCP. BTW, is the Log and Transfer Tool giving you a dialogue as to why those clips can’t be re-wrapped to MOV?
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Well you’ll definitely have to expose for the spot lit performer because that’s what everyone will be looking at. Here’s what you can do to make your life a little easier:
- Use manual iris (obviously)
- Set one zebra to 100% and the other to 80%
- Look for the 80% to paint facial highlights such as forehead and cheekbones ONLY.
- 100% zebras means those portions of the picture will be blown out depending on gamma selection.
- Keep your hand glued to the iris ring so you can instantly compensate for sudden exposure changes.
Create a picture profile and call it stage or something similar. TUrn off AUTO KNEE because it doesn’t work very well. Set your man. knee to 80 or 85%. this will give you more exposure latitude by compressing the highlights somewhat. Now you’ll notice that it takes longer for the zebra bars to appear for the same amount of exposure. Go to the link below and watch the video tutorial that’s 2nd from the top. By using certain gamma settings you can get more detail from the blacks, thereby pulling some of the other actors from the shadows a bit better.
https://www.xdcam-user.com/?page_id=13
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[William Mims] “Would it be better to have the sound fed into the camera in order to hold sync or is that a post/lab fix later?”
Use double system sound, that is, have a dedicated sound recordist with their own self contained gear and also use a mic on your camera to record the sound but for sync purposes only.
[William Mims] ” I am expecting the same but want to cover the possibility of a limited theatrical release by shooting 24P and proper picture profiles that give the best look.”
Alister Chapman has a good little video that explains the numerous gamma curves available for the EX cameras. More importantly, he talks about what the curves do and which one to use for your particular application.
https://www.xdcam-user.com/?page_id=13
Have a look at the second one down.Then there’s these tutorials from Sony:
https://www.sony.ca/xdcamex/tips.htm
– Don
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