Dominic Deacon
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I’ve never used any form of multi cam so I wasn’t aware it was dodgy. For me the major issue at the moment is I find audio work very clumsy compared to FCP. Probably I just don’t understand some of the intricacies of how it works but there’s very little support online for actually figuring these things out in Edius. A quick search of You Tube will bring up dozens of Lightworks tutorials but bugger all for Edius.
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I’ve logged about 60 hours with Edius so far- mostly doing colour correction- and only had to render twice. Both of those were when I imported some pro res files that it didn’t like. The interesting thing was that after the initial render I could then do whatever I wanted with those Pro Res files- colour correct, add graphics etc- but they never needed rendering again. One of my main frustraitions with FCP was that every time you make even a small adjustment, say move a title one frame, you still need to render the entire clip again. Which seemed nuts to me.
It’s interesting over on the Edius forum everyone keeps asking why Edius has such a small user base when it’s easily the fastest option. This forum is a great example of how Edius somehow manages to fly under the radar.
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“So why ask? No NLE will do everything well. You pick what works for you, your projects and your clients and adapt accordingly.”
I’m asking because I’m interested in others decisions. I’ve recently had to commit to one system because I’m about to embark on a major project and will need to be spending a few months with a single program. I’m sure others have had to bite the bullet recently and invest as well- whether in FCPX or something else. I’m interested in what they chose.
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[Bill Davis] “All of these are interesting products at amazing price points given how advanced the technology appears to be in each”
I haven’t had a look at AVID or REDs offerings yet but to be fair Canon didn’t promise “interesting”. They said todays announcement was going to be “historic”. Marketing departments tend to go overboard but if you promise “historic” and deliver “interesting” then you have to expect a bit of disappointment.
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Why is FCPX more future proof than the competition? It’s all very well to throw out the past but if you’re not bringing something that is superior then why will people pick it up?
[Gerald Baria] ” And dont even think it will require a whole new hardware overhaul cause it wont. FCPX is designed to be as processor efficient as possible so that even laptops can run it well.”
Compared to FCP7 it might be efficent and fast. But not necessarily compared to the competition. Check out the speed and effeciency of Edius. I can chuck files of any format, high or standard definition on the same timeline, colour grade, then watch the results back in before/after split screen in real time all without any rendering at any point. On a laptop. Plus I’ve got all the export options, viewers, multi-cam, options for external monitors etc that you expect from a professional piece of software.
Why is this less future proof than FCPX? More importantly why would you purchase your professional editing gear from a company who has shown they are happy to EOL professional software overnight and damn the consequences?
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[Bill Davis] “A list of features that may or may not make it into some potential future version of the software?”
Vague isn’t it? That said I’d pay damn good money for that rub-a-dub feature right now. Is there anything similar available now?
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[Ben Scott] “is that compared to using a mouse to change between windows?”
No. Compared to not having to change windows at all because they’re both just sitting there.
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[Ben Scott] “use command 1 or 2 to toggle whats on the viewer”
So the way it works is that you use command 1 and 2 to toggle back and forth between the source viewer and the record window? People are okay with that? I couldn’t work that way. Well I could but I can’t see why anyone should. It might be fine for doco work but for narrative filmmaking that sounds very slow, inefficent and also very taxing on the brain.
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I know a guy who’s running FCPX on a PC (hackintosh). Crazy.
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[Craig Seeman] “Eight months is a long time.”
No, I was saying that I’ll be editing this feature for the next 8 months, not in 8 months time. That’s how long it will take me as the footage will be drip fed.
I’m not sure what the realities are of being a professional editor in the broadcast world are as I’ve never even been to such a facility. I’ve edited 2 features and a few corporate videos for Hospitals, bars etc. and found that if you’re just using your machine as a picture editor a cheap PC is all you need. Even AVCHD footage doesn’t seem to push my system at all. Picture editing is all I do. At the end of the job everything gets farmed out to the sound guy and whoever is doing colour.
My decision on what to do was in the made for me by my DP who is more a part of that industry. He laughed when I told what people were telling me I needed and showed me what he was doing on his little PC laptop. This is a color grading tutorial he put together in Edius on that laptop that impressed the hell out of me: https://www.vimeo.com/28084356
When you’re used to FCP7 labouring it’s way through tasks on a desktop seeing someone get that kind of real time performance on a laptop is incredible and really shows how far behind the eight ball Apple was before they pulled out FCPX. And now with my work flows, simple as they are, they’re not even in the game anymore.