David Shirey
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Yes, it’s frustrating for us editors but the fact of the matter is that every television (HD or otherwise) is going to be slightly different. The title safe areas are designed so that if something is within them, anyone with any tv is going to see that part of the image. That being said, there are people who might view a project on some monitor or projector that overscans, and can see everything to the edge of the frame. I wouldn’t create the project so that there’s nothing but black space around the edge of the action safe areas, because lots of people could see that and it’s jarring. The trick is to fill the whole frame, but fill the edges with stuff that won’t matter if some people can’t see it. Something that really has to be done while shooting the footage rather than afterward.
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[Robert Payes] “Render time? Can’t be too long for a 4 minute project. Depending on my computer, I’ve seen render-time-to-footage-time ratios ranging from 4:1 to 8:1. Then again, I was rendering feature-length videos, so I’d start the rendering process just before I went to bed and let it cook overnight. :->”
Yeah I don’t have any specific hard data on render times, but my e8400 cpu normally renders an hour of SD footage to SD mpeg2 in about 45 minutes, whereas an hour of HD to SD mpeg2 can take 4 hours. So if rendering time is a huge concern then shooting in SD will save you time with that older system. Although with only 4 minutes of footage I don’t know what kind of rush you’re going to be in?
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[Robert Payes] “2) No. Since I assume you also have DVD Architect, you can shoot and edit HD footage, then render for disk authoring using the NTSC Widescreen video setting in Vegas; your video will play fullscreen on a 16:9 monitor and letterboxed on a 4:3 TV.
This is true, also having captured HD footage allows you some freedom if you ever want to just use a portion of the screen you can zoom in without losing quality for DVD.However, if you were positive that you’ll never want to burn a bluray of the footage, there are advantages to shooting in standard definition widescreen. One is that it’ll take up less space on your hard drive, if that’s a concern at all. Another would be the time it takes to render the final project to mpeg2. But if you’ve got enough hard drive space and aren’t in a hurry to render, I’d agree you should just keep shooting in HD.
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Not that I’ve heard of yet. If they ever let me get rid of that whole BPAV directory structure and just drop the mp4 files right into the timeline, man I’ll be first in line.
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Not having any direct experience with procoder, I’d give a shot rendering from Vegas directly to a 24p mpeg2. It’s been good enough for me in the past, and if your “clients” are screaming for best quality… well I know I’d pay a premium for a 1080p bluray of Doom House.
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I noticed something similar a few years ago when I was creating a video montage in widescreen from jpeg’s. almost all the jpeg’s I would apply Match Aspect Ratio to so I could pan or crop the area I wanted to 16:9. However, ones that were 4:3 but that I didn’t want to crop, and just left as-is, I found when rendered to a 4:3 letterboxed project, actually filled the 4:3 screen.
I think the same thing is happening to you, where the text media’s frame hasn’t changed to 16:9 so when it renders as 4:3 it automatically utilizes the whole area, ending up different than when you’re working on it in 16:9. Check the Event Pan/Crop for your text media and see if it all is in 16:9. Since you mentioned it comes into frame properly but leaves outside the border, perhaps you have it matching 16:9 at the opening keyframe but the ending keyframe is still in 4:3?
-dave
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[John Rofrano] “You need to find an AVI demuxer to split the streams.
~jr”
Whatever you do, just don’t CROSS the streams. It would be bad.
Seriously though, it sounds like what you’re trying to do probably has a solution somewhere at http://www.doom9.org. They have a lot of guides and freeware applications that should apply to what you’re trying to do.
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I see the pioneer at newegg for $400, so I’ll probably pick one up in August if they aren’t planning a price drop in September or anything. As the only Vegas guy in the office the boss has placed it on me to be the first to start burning blurays, since everyone else is on FCP and hasn’t heard any official announcement from Apple. I agree that at $18 a pop for inkjet printable tdk’s, I’ll just get a sandwich while it burns at 4X. We can risk getting some coasters at 16x once they’re 80 cents a piece. Now we just need to hope the printer doesn’t hiccup on the label 🙂
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I’d be interested to know what your workflow is like when you drag the .mts files into vegas, edit them then export. Also if anyone wants to describe their Vegas->DVDA5 workflow from an EX1 I’d love to hear it.
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This is great news that I’ve been looking forward to for a long time. You know what else I’ve been looking forward to? Massive bd25 price drops! Until then our clients are going to have to seriously weigh the benefits of HD quality vs. price.