[Chris Harlan]

I’m not having any similar problems. 8 core. 2 different Macbook pros. Blackmagic.

[Chris Harlan]

I’m fairly certain that you will not see any new features with 6, but since they are continuing to support it, you might see bug fixes and/or tiny infrastructure changes based on OS developments. There are always surprises in life, but my guess is that more features in 6 won’t be among them.

[Chris Harlan]

Hey Jay!

I’m a long-time FCP editor, and I’ve spent the last year on both Pr and MC. I like them both. Pr is an easier transition; you’ll feel at home there in a couple of days, and once you navigate a few hidden gotchas (things you were able to do in FCP7, and thought you’d be able to do in Pr, but can’t) it very smooth operation. I’m just starting to play with Pr CC and find fewer gotchas, and even more similarities to FCP7.

While I am just still playing with the new Pr, I would say it is very similar to Pr 6, but with many small improvements. The timeline is cleaner, the audio is better, CODEC support is the best out there, and just generally, operations have improved. I liked Pr 6 quite a bit, and this version is clearly superior. You’ll have to decide for yourself whether the rental fee approach troubles you. Personally, I would prefer that it wasn’t exclusively this way, but that is also not stopping me from using it.

I’m very much looking forward to the next version of Avid; there are not going to be huge changes, but those few that are coming are quite welcome, if somewhat overdue.

Side by side, and just dashing a few things off, I’d say this:

Avid is still the best cutter. I haven’t spent quite enough time at Pr to see how closely its caught up, so I may amend this down the road, but what MC shines at is a million very effective ways to trim and cut. This is where the learning curve is coming from FCP, because the thought processes are not immediately obvious, nor are the key strokes, but once you get a feeling for it, your fingers will miss it–mine do, anyway–when you are cutting on something else. I also have to say that tackling the learning curve was worth it for me and has made me a stronger editor.

Premiere has better audio tools. Right now Premiere has the best audio interface around( except maybe Vegas, which I haven’t looked at in a number of years.) You can do sub mixes, mix at a clip level, mix at a track level, use sends, and, in this version, ADD Mackie compatible controllers! Hooray for that! The next version of MC adds some nice mixing improvements, but it hasn’t caught up.

Premiere is better with mixed or multi media. MC has gotten much better over the last couple of versions, and I’m hoping in this next one that AMA will be less of a token, but MC is really still about the notion of working in a single master format.

Pr is more configurable. Probably the the thing I like most about FCP 7 is how configurable the interface is–multiple timelines open, a bin here, a bin there, tabbed windows and sequences. Premiere is like that, and with its unique window docking, maybe more so.

So I like them both. Both fun, both good. And, I should add, that you can try both for free for 30 days. I’d wait a few weeks until MC7 is out, but if you are in a hurry, it won’t be THAT different from 6.5, which is one of the charms/curses of MC.

[Chris Harlan]

[David Lawrence] “Chris, how much better is the new Premiere in your opinion? As good as it looks from the demos?

BTW, I hear great things about Symphony 7…
“

I wish I could tell you. I’m buried in a project right now, and can’t get into it. I’m currently working in–drum roll–FCP 7. I have seen it in the field, prior to the release, and it is really a matter of lots of little niceties. I AM looking forward to it, but it may be weeks before I can give it a real spin.

Yeah, MC7 (with the Symphony Upgrade) does look nice. I actually bought the 6 to 6.5 upgrade today to make sure I could take advantage of the free boost to 7. I’m looking forward to that too. And, weirdly, I’m enjoying being back on Legacy, as well. I will probably time freeze a Legacy computer at one of the Lions just for the heck of it.

[Chris Harlan]

[David Lawrence] “It’s in everyone’s best interest that Adobe be a healthy business in the future.
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I agree with that. Eventually, I probably won’t be using Creative Cloud if I’m using it for too long in a vacuum. I like the Premiere changes quite a bit, but Symphony is also swell for me. I’m in for a year, and I hope this all gets worked out in the meantime. If it turns into an island, then I will only rent it when I need it, which probably won’t be often because CS 6 fills most of my non-NLE needs. So, fingers crossed that it all works out.

[Chris Harlan]

I got it downloaded, and it looks purty, but I’ve been too busy to play. How about plugins? Any trouble moving them over? Continuum? Red?

[Chris Harlan]

[Mark Mapes] “Chris: Here are the steps recommended by staff on a thread on the Adobe forums (https://forums.adobe.com/message/5418644#5418644):
Please Quit your existing Adobe Application Manager and re-launch it. It will update itself to the new Creative Cloud application and then you will see the CC apps for download.

In case you are a new user, go to creative.adobe.com and try downloading the apps from there and it will in turn download the new Creative cloud installer and install the desired apps.

Install the all new CC apps and check if that works fine.

Also clear your browser history and cache to experience new interface of https://www.creative.adobe.com
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Hey Mark, thanks for the quick reply. I’m already downloading. You’re advice is good except for one thing. I could not reload the Application Manager. I DID clear my cache, and then what I had to do was go back and install the Application manager from March, which once reinstalled, allowed me to install the newest Application Manager successfully. Otherwise, it kept trying to unpack the Application Manager, and then failed with a notice that had a link that, if followed, took me back to the same Application manager that I kept failing to upload. Apparently you need to go back to the March installer to break the cycle.

[Chris Harlan]

Good for you, man. Trying to download is totally FUBAR on my side right now.

[Chris Harlan]

Well hey, its a sleigh ride. Let’s all have fun.

[Chris Harlan]

No. It updated to a version slightly past that. I upgraded from CS6; was I supposed to download a separate set CC files? I try to do that now from my online CC account and I get a low-level Access Denied page.