Chris Harlan
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[David Lawrence] “Their solution to the multitrack audio problem will tell us a lot.”
Do you think they perceive of that as a problem? I would hope they do, but I feel far from certain that they see things that way.
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[Tim Wilson] “Being precise on an iPad is a pain in the ass.”
Exactly!
[Tim Wilson] “Good for them for thinking of ways to reduce my opportunities for making mistakes. Fooey on them for thinking of ways to reduce my opportunities.
“Hear, hear!
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Maybe. The thing is, after two years with an iPad, I’m not quite as enamored with the whole touch screen thing as I once was. Actually, its really made be value both tactile keys and the nifty Apple trackpads–and, for that matter, a good precision mouse. My gut tells me that touch screen pads are not the future I once saw them to be, though I still see them having an important place, primarily for media consumption and game playing. Of course, it could just be me.
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[Shane Ross] “[Simon Ubsdell] “I did hear that Trailer Park were among the very few beta testers – do you know if that’s true?”
Yeah, I know they tested…I know they gave a quote. But I don’t think they are using it yet.
“I sat in there for a week on a show back in October, and nobody was talking about it. Now, I never talked to anybody who wasn’t on that show. Everything was still FCS, and no plans seemed to be in effect to adjust that fact. Of course, I have no idea what was happening on other floors.
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[Shane Ross] “[Simon Ubsdell] “I did hear that Trailer Park were among the very few beta testers – do you know if that’s true?”
Yeah, I know they tested…I know they gave a quote. But I don’t think they are using it yet.
“I sat in there for a week on a show back in October, and nobody was talking about it. Now, I never talked to anybody who wasn’t on that show. Everything was still FCS, and no plans seemed to be in effect to adjust that fact. Of course, I have no idea what was happening on other floors.
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[Simon Ubsdell] “I’d say Jason is not talking about a movie studio or anything like it to judge from his description:
“a very large media company”
” have high-volume, rapid-turnaround environments with hundreds of editors in locations all over the world”
This sounds much more like a news outlet than an entertainment company and FCPX does fit the news editing model pretty well.”
I can certainly see a news outlet strongly considering it, especially one that is not traditional broadcast, and doesn’t have tons of footage currently tied to an Isis install. How is the X database working with centralized servers at this point? I haven’t been following that recently. Can you currently build a huge metadata organized library full of clips that bazillions of people can access in tandem? Or is that still in the promise realm?
I do agree that X could be super fast as a news cutter.
[Simon Ubsdell] “My point in starting this thread – and with your experience I think you will appreciate more than most what I’m saying – is that there are many, many requirements that trailer editing (and its associated disciplines) impose on the editor in terms of interfacing with the outside world, most particularly in terms of audio, that really fundamentally rule FCPX out of the equation as it stands.”
Very true. It will probably be a long while before it can service my niche properly, but I am enjoying watching all you guys use it, and am looking forward to some time to actually play with it. I certainly can’t argue with the number of people who are enjoying the interface.
[Simon Ubsdell] “The concurrent discussion about multi-track audio in FCPX definitely touches on this area. Most of the source audio we use is multi-track, where you are not simply cutting one “lane” of multiple tracks but several at once. I’m not at all sure that FCPX is capable of dealing with this to the required level as it stands.”
Agreed. I’m regularly working from source files that have 4 to 16 tracks, and I wouldn’t even know where to begin.
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[Jason Myres] “[Shane Ross] “I know of no one in the professional LA market considering FCX for anything.”
You may not, but I do system engineering for companies all over Los Angeles, I can personally tell you with 10.0.3 the flood gates have just opened. I recently spoke over the phone with a good friend who is a senior post engineer at a very large media company, and in a few weeks they will be pulling the trigger on FCPX company-wide.
While I agree that it isn’t ready for certain segments, FCPX is absolutely perfect for many companies that have high-volume, rapid-turnaround environments with hundreds of editors in locations all over the world.
In one year FCPX will be everywhere you look.
JM
“Sorry, Jason. I got a back what Shane is saying here. I have many contacts at Studios, Networks, Cable Channels, Post facilities, and boutique houses and NOBODY is saying what you are. It’s not that there isn’t some interest, but its tepid at best. I don’t mean to be confrontational, but I’m just not seeing it. What is your definition of a very large media company? Mine would be Warner Bros., Sony, Paramount.
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[Bill Davis] “it’s fundamentally crappy design to have a system where changes in one place can mess up previous decisions in another that you are no longer looking at. It’s something we’ve mentally had to learn to “anticipate” through rote learning. But it’s bad design. Period.”
Only if you don’t know what you are doing.
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[David Lawrence] “[Jeremy Garchow] “Multitrack audio editing is the worst part of FCPX at the moment for me.”
Agreed. And I think it really demonstrates the limitations of the FCPX timeline paradigm. Very curious to see how they fix it.”
One of the lovely things in 7 is that timecode overlay that has color-matching for multitrack sync. A simple thing, but a pain to lose. Also the combustibility of the tracks–the ease with which they break apart and can be slipped, but with the ever-present sync marks to let you know how far you’ve gone afield when sliding whalla, duplicating room noise, or edging the pop from a pistol a frame or two forward.
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[David Roth Weiss] “[Craig Seeman] “BTW as much as I like FCPX I think you’re being kind by calling it beta. In my early posts I said that I liked it but it seemed more like alpha. Alpha in that it wasn’t feature complete. Beta is at the point one is testing complete features for release. I was a little tongue in check about that but, as far as “the market” is concerned, 10.0.3 probably comes closer to meeting people’s expectations of a feature complete 1.0 app.”
I said that same thing back in June and you disagreed. :)”
We’ve all grown a lot since then. Or is groaned a lot?