Chris Harlan
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Terrific overview.
[Jim Giberti] “My single change:
One button – Magnetism Off/Track Grid On.
“That would get me involved pretty fast.
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[Simon Ubsdell] “[Jeremy Garchow] “Again, I have no idea how valuable my point is or if I know what I am talking about, or am qualified for your level of expertise, but good riddance to STP. The interchange sucked between 7 and STP.”
I really do beg to differ, sorry!
“I too dig STP, and am sorry to see it go. I use/used it a lot, and that’s with Logic, ProTools, and Digital Performer sitting right next to it. (I use them a lot, too, but just for different stuff.)
[Simon Ubsdell] “I can’t see that anyone who recognizes the astonishing depth and complexity, not to mention the massive potential, in Motion, could possibly want to see it diluted by being bundled into FCPX to its certain major detriment,”
I agree, as well. I’m still using 4, but when I have time I might gravitate to 5 and use FCPX/Compressor as its i/o.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “[Simon Ubsdell] “I’d also argue that the “container based inferface” was already there in Legacy. ”
Yeah, but if something isn’t enabled properly or useful, it might as well not exist as why use it if it makes your editing life hard?”
I use nesting all the time in 7. Funny, how depending on kinds of projects, we all see different tools as useless or useful.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “[Chris Harlan] “I agree with this, and I’d be willing to call a Photoshop layer a single frame track if anyone wanted to get into a donnybrook over it.”
I see them as layers, not as tracks. I can have a clip in a track at the beginning of the timeline, and a clip in the same track at the end.
How would you do this in Photoshop?
“I suppose I’m mostly joking about the granularity of the distinction. Frankly, I’d be willing to call them either Harvey or Loraine if I could get others to agree. So, yes, one is a Harvey and the other is a Loraine and they share many, many properties, but viva la difference.
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[Simon Ubsdell] “[Chris Harlan] “Personally, I would love an NLE that could group tracks in the way Motion does. It would be totally rocking to have the option hierarchical track Groups so that all sfx could reside in a single group that could be expanded/contracted, have filters or volume changes applied globally, etc.”
Isn’t this just what you can already do when you compound clips in FCPX?
A Compound is not hugely different to a Motion Group in a practical sense if not a design one.”
Certainly, and it is one of the nice ideas of X, but it comes at the expense of the other elements of track-i-ness, which–for me–far outweigh the usefulness of compound clips. In Motion, each layer still retains both its relations across time and its assigned hierarchical level within the group.
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[Oliver Peters] “By the way, Oliver, do you think Motion really has tracks?
I answered that in another reply, but yes, I see the layers in Motion and in AE as tracks. The reason is that you can adjust their position against time and you can also change in/out points and slip the media content of each clip.
“I agree with this, and I’d be willing to call a Photoshop layer a single frame track if anyone wanted to get into a donnybrook over it. Personally, I would love an NLE that could group tracks in the way Motion does. It would be totally rocking to have the option hierarchical track Groups so that all sfx could reside in a single group that could be expanded/contracted, have filters or volume changes applied globally, etc. Maybe somebody will do it some day, though not with X since it is the antithesis of what X is about.
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[Bill Davis] “The point is that the Event Browser was an integral part of managing, rating, rough trimming, assessing and assembling my story before I ever opened up a timeline.
Now I suppose you could do all of that in Legacy using color tags, bins, and such – so I’m not saying anything here is “impossible” in what we had before.
I’m saying its all easy, practical and FAST do do the above in X. And in fact the interface encourages the tagging and sorting by elevating tagging to equal prominence in the workflow of X, where in Legacy you would have been working in “bins” that many people think of merely as “dumb storage” constructs – rightfully or not.
“I think that’s a fair, accurate assessment of some of the pluses of X. In 7, I do most/all of what you are talking about here with a combination of bins, notes, timelines and color tabs, but your approach would be a welcome alternative that I would certainly add to my workflow. It might even supersede my workflow or create a hybrid that worked better for me than either. I enjoyed your description, btw, of the process you used.
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[Chris Harlan] “tself instead of an analog device like a trackpad or touchscreen”
“touchscreen” should have read “mouse or graphics pad.”
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[Jeremy Garchow] “I know this will sound weird, but those limitations are purposeful. As I mentioned, if you read the Apple documents on how they envision designing a touch app, what it’s used for and for how long it’s used, it fits the model they envision for now. “
What you are saying is interesting, but what I’m referring to is the lack of precision that seems to be a natural byproduct of using the screen itself instead of an analog device like a trackpad or touchscreen. I’ve been working with touch-like screens since I got a Cintiqe about four years back, and they have definite value, but nothing like I thought they’d have.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “That being said, I do like the trackpad gestures in Lion. I find them very useful and makes certain actions more efficient.”
Agreed. Of all the things that have matured out of the touch explosion, I’d say the multi-gesture glass trackpad experience is by far my favorite, and by far the most useful. After two years of use, I’m not soured on pads, but I do find them limiting in many ways I never expected.