Is anybody here actually cutting multi track audio with X?

[Peter Dunphy]

Hi Mark

This thread by Jim Giberti might be useful:

https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/18954#18954

Warm regards

Peter

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[David Roth weiss]

Mark,

Okay, my antenna just went up.

Care to share what exactly you’re exploring? Have you got a new concept for possibly incorporating X into your workflow that you’d care to share?

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DRW

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[Oliver Peters]

I’ve tried, but find it very cumbersome to use. It’s almost impossible to edit in the multi cam mode this way, as I’m sure you know. For now, I have avoided bringing those types of edits into X. You basically have to edit and mix the audio before ever cutting any picture and that’s completely unrealistic.

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[Jeremy Garchow]

Or you have to keep “opening in timeline” to mix the separate tracks, but you then lose context of the rest of the edit.

It is also kind of impractical to detach and then break apart, as the lack of sync indicators won’t let you know when something has gone awry.

Of course, the solution is then to make a compound of all of that, and keep breaking apart and compounding if you need to stay within the context of the timeline. This seems a bit unnecessary.

Multitrack audio editing is the worst part of FCPX at the moment for me.

Jeremy

[Simon Ubsdell]

Sadly I think this is yet another thing they rushed out before it was ready because it would sound sexy and professional to a wider audience who don’t really need multicam but like to think that it’s there.

I can’t imagine any of the users who were desperately waiting for multicam in order to be able to start editing in FCPX are that thrilled by the way it’s actually turned out so far. It’s not really usable in this form for most purposes other than maybe music promos.

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[David Lawrence]

[Jeremy Garchow] “Multitrack audio editing is the worst part of FCPX at the moment for me.”

Agreed. And I think it really demonstrates the limitations of the FCPX timeline paradigm. Very curious to see how they fix it.

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[Chris Harlan]

[David Lawrence] “[Jeremy Garchow] “Multitrack audio editing is the worst part of FCPX at the moment for me.”

Agreed. And I think it really demonstrates the limitations of the FCPX timeline paradigm. Very curious to see how they fix it.”

One of the lovely things in 7 is that timecode overlay that has color-matching for multitrack sync. A simple thing, but a pain to lose. Also the combustibility of the tracks–the ease with which they break apart and can be slipped, but with the ever-present sync marks to let you know how far you’ve gone afield when sliding whalla, duplicating room noise, or edging the pop from a pistol a frame or two forward.

[Jeremy Garchow]

[David Lawrence] “Agreed. And I think it really demonstrates the limitations of the FCPX timeline paradigm. “

No, I think that it just isn’t implemented yet, or maybe they are waiting to hear feedback, or perhaps they just don’t care. I don’t know.

If you could expand audio like you can now, except it showed all of the tracks instead of just one fake compound of the tracks, it’d be much better.

It’s like the capability is already there, it’s just not turned on.

Jeremy

[Simon Ubsdell]

[Chris Harlan] ”
One of the lovely things in 7 is that timecode overlay that has color-matching for multitrack sync. A simple thing, but a pain to lose.”

Couldn’t agree more. This was an absolutely brilliant idea that was so useful so much of the time – Media Composer’s timecode viewing options still feel so primitive by comparison. And FCPX is a very long way from getting back to this feature.

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[Mark Dobson]

So I’ve been asked to film a workshop on Monday which includes 2 cameras filming 6 different speakers during the day.

Is this fairly simple set up going to be a doddle with the FCPX multicam facility?

Once the 2 cameras are synced up what do I need to watch out for in the edit?

This must be the most basic implementation of multicam – a good place to start for me.