[Brent Hannigan]

Dave

I am not sure if this will work – never uploaded to the COW before. Thanks for your help.

6917_pbc2012iaredflagswarehousetemplate.xml.zip

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[Brent Hannigan]

Dave

I have uploaded the 15MB XML file. The original FCP 7 sequence had at least 6 tracks of video and 4 tracks of audio. The Premiere version has only 1 video track and no audio. HOWEVER the media from track 2 is visible in my system even though the clips are not there. Example at 1:00:32:00 there is a green screen interview on V2. (I posted the screen grab in a previous post).
I solved the problem by using automatic duck but would like to understand what is happening here as I may need to use a FCP7 to Premiere Pro workflow a great deal in the future.

Thank you

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[Brent Hannigan]

I decided to try AAF export with automatic duck and it worked so problem solved. I guess the FCP7 sequence had something in it that the XML just didn’t like.

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[Brent Hannigan]

Here is another screenshot to illustrate the invisible clip syndrome. The green screen footage belongs on V2 and you can see it but the clip is not there. If I toggle the V2 eyeball the clip appears and disappears as it should.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/asz13vzuofmhu7l/Screen%20Shot%202013-12-12%20at%205.05.52%20PM.png

This is really bugging me now….

[Brent Hannigan]

Thanks John I think the command-empty trash trick was what I needed.

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[Brent Hannigan]

Yes, I am fully versed in all manner of weirdness from 7 years with FCP and 10 years with Avid but this has me really stumped. First thing I did is go the “trash preferences” route.

In a nutshell this is what I’m doing and the problem.

FCP and AE are both open.
I render an animation in AE and edit it into FCP.
I want to change the AE animation so I delete the corresponding FCP clip in the finder – it goes offline and in the trash.
I fix my AE comp and re-render with the same name as the old file (now in the trash)
I reconnect the offline clip to the “new” animation and it still shows me the one that’s in the trash.

I can not empty the trash unless I exit FCP.
I do not want to have to continuously exit and re-opn these large projects to do constant revisions.

If I go to Motion 4 and render something out in the same way I can do this process no problem.

I’ve been using Motion for years but prefer AE now and was hoping to have an easier round trip experience, but maybe I am missing something….?

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[Brent Hannigan]

Thanks for the suggestion Dave. This method works but is not the solution I am looking for because I do not want to have to continuously open and close FCP and AE.

The weird thing is that when I am working with Motion 4 output, FCP automatically updates the clip when i command-tab back to FCP.

I am hoping to be able to quickly make changes in AE and have it update but there’s some weirdness going on that I have never seen before. For example if i use the “make offline” command and select “delete them from the disk” – nothing happens. I tried re creating this in a brand new project and the same thing happened.

Any one else seen something like this…

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[Brent Hannigan]

Forgot to mention that when I do the exact same round trip using Motion 4 it updates Final Cut 7 perfectly with no problems. I prefer to use AE so I’d like to figure this out. Thanks.

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[Brent Hannigan]

I have come across the need to do this on occasion and my method is to send the clip to Motion and use the “randomize” behavior. You can set a a subtle random movement to the X&Z axis to make it look like camera shake. I’m sure there are other methods and plugins within Final Cut but I have found this way to be quite effective and you have a lot of control.

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[Brent Hannigan]

This is the only way I know.

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