Barry Green
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[Gary Taylor] “I agree that the XL-H1 is an excellent complement for a DVCPRO HD tape deck. That HD-SDI port presents alot of options if you can accept being tethered.
Well, actually, I don’t really understand using the Canon and tethering it to a DVCPRO-HD deck. That part doesn’t make all that much sense to me, as in: why spend $25,000 for a deck to record in the same format that you could get on a $650 card? I think the HD-SDI going to the Wafian, or to HDCAM, might make more sense — but then why use a $9,000 head to record on a $50,000 deck?
I really don’t see the Canon as being in competition with the HVX, and certainly not due to the HD-SDI port. I think that port, and the accompanying TC jacks etc., are there to make the Canon a live studio head camera. And frankly, I think that’s very intelligent on their part — they’ve staked out a segment of the market where nobody can come close to them. There is certainly nothing within $20,000 that compares to the XLH1, as far as a studio HD camera with an attached recorder.
I know people are excited about the prospects of the HD-SDI port, but for indie shooters/filmmakers/etc., I just don’t see it as having much practical value. Just about the cheapest device you can hook up to it is a DVCPRO-HD deck, and you can record native DVCPRO-HD on an HVX (and get variable frame rates and true progressive scan while you’re at it). So I don’t really see the two as being in competition at all.
[Gary Taylor] “I have also been reading pretty good things about the native HDV capabilities.
As an HDV camera, nothing can touch the Canon. It’s way sharper than the Sony, it has more usable rez and framerates than the JVC, and their HDV/24F mode seems quite robust. I don’t know about its 60i mode, I’ve always thought 60i was too much for HDV, but for 24F they gain two benefits: they encode a progressive frame, and they encode 20% less data so it’s more efficient. I used to say that the JVC implementation of HDV was the best/most robust, but now I’m thinking, after having seen it, that the Canon implementation is actually better. It seems to be on par with the JVC for robustness, but it also provides 60i capability. Now, of course, the downside is that no deck in the world will play that Canon footage; they went and created their own format to do it. But assuming that gets sorted out someday, the Canon 24F HDV looks like a pretty reasonable, nicely sharp, quite robust implementation.
[Gary Taylor] How do you think the HVX-200 will compare to the XL-H1 when shooting 1080 60i?”
Well, 60i is where the HDV will be at its weakest, and AFAIK we haven’t seen any Canon 60i footage at shows yet. 60i is tough to encode in HDV, the 4:2:0 color sampling doesn’t play nicely with interlace, and the faster update rate taxes the codec more. However, the Canon appears to have top-notch glass on its lens, which is always a bonus. It does appear to have significantly narrower latitude though — there were burnt-out highlights in every outdoors shot and most indoors shots on their demo footage, indicative of narrow latitude. I’d guess that it’s probably a half-stop narrower than the Sony, but definitely significantly sharper than the Sony.The HVX should be comparable in noise, better in sensitivity, with wider latitude and double the color sampling. So while I expect that the Canon will likely turn out the best-looking HDV 1080/60i, I do expect the HVX will be a noticeable step up in that comparison.
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I don’t think it’ll shake out that way. I think the new buyers are going to shun the 8gb cards to start. The 4gb’s are much more affordable, you can easily buy three of them for less than the cost of one 8gb card — and three 4gb’s gives you more options (like hot-swappability and perpetual recording) than you’d have with a single 8gb card.
We shot for four days using just two 4gb cards, and it was basically enough to get the job done. I really don’t see people rushing to upgrade in capacity, at least until the price differential reflects no premium over the capacity (i.e., until an 8gb card costs no more than two 4gb’s, etc).
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There are many, many more shutter speeds possible. Those shutter speeds are the stock speeds, and don’t include the Synchro Scan speeds. Also, when you’re in FILM CAM mode, the shutter speed is expressed in terms of shutter angle degrees, and can vary from about 5 degrees all the way to 350 degrees.
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There are many who know their merits far better than I do. All I’m saying is, data tape is the proper way to go, if one wants to back up on tape. Video tape is the worst way to back up because it’s the slowest, most labor-intensive, and most expensive of the tape options.
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Seen a few reports of this recently on another forum. The consensus seems to be that the camera must have a dirty potentiometer in there or something; I’d recommend a trip to a service facility to get it checked out.
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It only works in free-run mode, in TC Preset. Set both cameras to Free Run and TC Preset, and set the “B” to “DV TC IN”. Then link ’em and press the button.
You cannot use the feature in Rec Run mode, or Regen.
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Yes you can do that.
I used the HVX and offloaded the cards onto my Dell laptop’s internal hard disk. The editor who cut the footage for DV Expo was using a Mac. We transferred the files off my laptop and onto an external firewire hard disk, and he edited from there.
Use FAT32, not NTFS, as (last I checked) Macs have an easier time reading FAT32.
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Interesting. I don’t know the answer, but it sounds like the question needs to be directed towards Apple, and towards Panasonic Europe. Panasonic Europe has a website with their own forum, so you can reach them directly at http://www.panasonic-broadcast.com.
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[donatello] “it is probably up to the reseller on the price he gives you as he could sell it to you for the price when you ordered it ..”
Indeed. There was no increase from the factory, so whatever deal you have in place with your dealer should continue at whatever price you negotiated when you placed your order.
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I can verify that. I sat in on the presentation to the dealers at DVExpo on Tuesday of last week, where pricing was announced to the dealers. The prices were posted on the website on Wednesday. The prices that were announced to the dealers were the ones that are now on the website. The “save $200” prices were a surprise to me, since that’s not what the dealers were told, and obviously the web guy posted the wrong sheet because it was quickly changed. But what’s on the website now is what the dealers were told on Tuesday. So no increase, instead a mistake on the part of the web guy.
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