Barry Green
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P2/HVX material also made it into the theatrical release of Scorsese’s “The Departed”, and the middle eastern theatrical release of Spielberg’s “Munich”, and there have been reports that it was also used in Spider-Man III for some POV stuff.
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Just tried it, and it is really rather amazing what Marcus has accomplished here. Run Vegas, plug in a card, and drag the files straight to the timeline. Edit straight off the card, no copying, no offloading, no file conversions, no unwrap/rewrap… it works almost as well as EDIUS does, yet it does it within Vegas which is such a wonderful editing program. Fantastic job, Marcus!
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You get somewhat higher resolution and much milder compression in 1080/24p than you do in 720/24p.
But you get more flexibility as far as recording time and frame rates in 720 mode.
Many people feel that 720p is the “sweet spot” with the HVX, which is fine, but if you’re after ultimate image quality just recognize that it does a better job in 1080/24p than it does in 720/24p, and better in 1080/30p than it does in 720/30p. However I do prefer 720/60p over 1080/60i.
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If you’re shooting 24p, 1080 is better than 720. Just use an editing program that supports removing the pulldown and you’ll be fine.
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Absolutely agreed with everything Uli said.
For the Canon, if you really want to look at the Canon, give a look at the XHA1. It delivers XLH1-caliber footage but at $5,000 less. I still think the HVX is roughly twice the camera the Canon XHA1 is, and with the free 8GB card the HVX is a really compelling value. But at the XHA1’s price point, if you can live with HDV and giving up things like 720p, variable frame rates, 4:2:2 color, 4 channels of audio, and the superb colorimetry that Panasonic delivers, the XHA1 does deliver sharp 1080/24F footage at a very attractive price point ($3700 or so). I spent a week with an XHA1 side by side with the HVX; the HVX crushes the XHA1 as far as features and value and richness/texture of picture, but then again the HVX costs more, so it should. But unless you absolutely *need* HD-SDI, I don’t really see a compelling case for the XLH1 anymore, when the XHA1 delivers basically all the same goods at over $5,000 less.
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[jordan82] “but I’m wondering if the FireStore FS-100 is much better (for example, can the FS-100 record in the P2 MXF format the way that the P2 cards do?).”
Yes the FS-100 should be much better than the CitiDisk. For one thing, it works reliably now, after several firmware updates. And it has lots of features the CitiDisk doesn’t. And yes, it does record in the P2 MXF format like the P2 cards do, although you do have to run an “organize P2” menu option before importing into FCP. And with version 3 of the firmware it’ll allow direct recording into Quicktime movies, so those who use FCP will be able to bypass the whole importing process and just drag the recorded files directly to the timeline.
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[doka15] “But it sounds like the AVC is an ‘intra codec’ not GOP”
There are two new formats coming. AVC-Intra is intra-frame only and is going to be an optional codec card for Panasonic’s 2/3″ professional P2 lineup. It is frame-discrete, no GOP, and based on AVC/H.264, at 50 megabits or 100 megabits. At 50 megabits they say it’s equivalent to 100-megabit DVCPRO-HD; at 100 megabits and 10-bit they claim it’s comparable to HD-D5.
AVC-HD is a low-bitrate long-GOP version, the replacement for HDV. It’s made by both Panasonic and Sony, at up to 24 megabits per second, recorded tapelessly to SD memory cards, hard disks, or mini-DVD discs. Like HDV it’s a 4:2:0 8-bit long-GOP codec, but it’s over twice as efficient (8 megabits of AVC-HD delivers picture quality comparable to 25 megabits of HDV), it has much better audio (up to 7.1 channels of uncompressed PCM or 5.1 channels of AC-3), it is cross-compatible between manufacturers (imagine that!), it supports full-raster 1920×1080 recording, and it has native support for 1080/24p and 720/24p right from the beginning. As a format it should prove to be notably superior to HDV, but there are no “worthy” camera heads available yet, only little consumer palmcorders. Hopefully in 2007 we’ll see some appropriate professional camera heads using the new format.
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[Robb Stan] “Thank you! Case closed.”
Better re-open that case. That Delkin adapter doesn’t do what you want. That’s not a PCMCIA adapter, that’s a CompactFlash adapter. In other words, it won’t work to do what you’re trying to do.
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The HVX200 itself can’t use any AVC codec. They’d have to make a new model that either incorporated an AVC/h.264 compression card in it, or allowed it to work with the optional AVC-Intra codec board that they’re marketing for the “big” cameras.
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100 megaBITS, not megaBytes. DVCPRO-HD is 100 megabits per second.
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