Andrew Lenczycki
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John, I was hoping the 64-bit along with more memory would cure the problem, but it clearly hasn’t. It seems like whether in Vegas Pro 10 32-bit or Vegas 12 64-bit, I still hit “the wall” at around the same number of nested R2G .veg files. It would seem like with 4x the memory of my new computer, it would happen much later.
At any rate, what you suggested is exactly what I hit on myself and did for the project that I had to get done by last Thursday night. I was creating the show for a DVD presentation. I rendered the individual R2G .veg files using the Main Concept MPEG-2 DVD Architect NTSC Widescreen Video Stream template, then nested THESE files in my “Master” Vegas 12 project, along with a couple hundred pictures. When I rendered the 28 minute Master project for DVD, it rendered in about 8 minutes in DVDA. Does this mean that the .mpg segments I created from the R2G .veg files were not re-rendered in DVDA and there would be no additional loss of picture quality? If that’s the case, I can live with rendering the individual R2G segments individually then nest them into the “Final” project. What you do lose this way though, is the ability to right-click to be able to instantly edit the nested R2G .veg file to tweak, then come right back to the Master project and continue.
Andrew Lenczycki
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According to the Sony Creative Software product comparison site at https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro/compare, it doesn’t appear to be an option for you. Sorry. Perhaps one of the more experienced guys have another way to come at it for you.
Andrew Lenczycki
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You could save your project (with several tracks), then put that saved ‘.veg’ file into another (2nd) .veg project (nesting). Your multi-track original project will show up as a single event on one track. If you right-click on the event, you can open a 2nd instance of Vegas to go back and tweak the editing on the first project in its multi-track incarnation and save it. The 2nd project will automatically refresh the nested original .veg file, then you can apply your affects. When done, render the 2nd .veg project and there will be no quality loss.
Andrew Lenczycki
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Actually, I think that’s, “I love you Mann!”
Andrew Lenczycki
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Graham, I like your idea about someone putting together a flow diagram of sorts. I DON’T have the video technical knowledge base to do this, but I do have experience in manufacturing process flows. I have put together a quick Excel sheet to demonstrate a “concept” of what it might look like. There also may have to be some intermediate steps or determinations built into this as well (high quality, low file size, good for fast action, poor for fact action, etc.). Perhaps this is something that could be collectively worked on by several of our more knowledgeable technical aspect posters here (nudge, nudge, wink, wink: John Rofrano, Graham Bernard, Mike Kujbida, Steve Mann, Dave Hanie, etc.). Even a very basic process flow that doesn’t take into account EVERY possible combination or permutation would be very helpful to a lot of us that peruse this forum.
Andrew Lenczycki
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I’m not a Vegas Movie Studio user (Vegas Pro), but I think you can probably fix #2 and definitely #3 by setting up a dummy project with no tracks and the toolbar the way you want it. Save the project as “Scotts Template” or something like that. Whenever you want to start a new project, open the Scotts Template (which should have no tracks) and then go on from there.
Andrew Lenczycki
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Depending on how much typing you need to do, I did the following quick and dirty test:
1) Instert a Media Generators|Text|Solid Background text event on timeline.
2) To have it look as real as possible, I set the alignment of the text to Left, then typed the letter “A”, setting a keyframe (press the Animate button at the bottom of the Sony Text box). Set the keyframe type to Hold (right-click on the keyframe, select Hold from the list).
3) Move 5 frames (you can vary this move amount to speed up or slow down the rate of “typing”) and add a new key frame. Add the letter “n” to the A that was previously typed. Set this keyframe type to Hold.
4) Move 5 frames and add a new key frame. Add the letter “d” to the An that was previously typed. Set this keyframe type to Hold.
5) Move 5 frames and add a new key frame. Add the letter “r” to the And that was previously typed. Set this keyframe type to Hold.
6) Move 5 frames and add a new key frame. Add the letter “e” to the Andr that was previously typed. Set this keyframe type to Hold.
7) Move 5 frames and add a new key frame. Add the letter “w” to the Andre that was previously typed. Set this keyframe type to Hold.Congratulations, you can now type my name on screen! Change and repeat for additional text. If you search online, I’m guessing you can find a typewriter sound to add to the effect.
Andrew Lenczycki
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I have run into this type of problem with MS Word, where I have a huge directory of files, but several that I use quite frequently. I have to hunt for the file I need, which may be way down in the alphabetized list. The way I get around that, and I see no reason why you can’t do the same with your Vegas presets, is to name them by a convention that automatically alphabetizes them to the TOP of the list. As an example, I renamed my Word files from “FAX with Logo”, “Letter with Logo”, “Monthly Rental Review”, “Payment Agreement” files to “0-FAX with Logo”, “0-Letter with Logo”, “0-Monthly Rental Review”, “0-Payment Agreement”. Now when I open my file list, these files are alphabetically at the start of my file list. I believe you should be able to do the same type of thing with naming your Vegas presets.
Andrew Lenczycki
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That commercial obviously had some serious FX work done on it. Everything is either white or blue (i.e. no “shades of gray”). I was able to loosly approximate by putting a video clip on track 1 and the major color I wanted the video to become in track 2, which is simply a Media Generators – Solid Color (I chose blue to approximate the ad).
I then applied the following Sony FX to the video event in track 1:
Black & White – I set the value to 1.0 (for full black & white)
Brightness & Contrast – Brightness: .18
Contrast: .68
Contrast Center: .69
Chroma Keyer: I selected black from the video event (which will make black be “invisible”), letting the color in Track 2 to “show thru”. This is not as clean as the Geico ad, but I was able to do in about 5 minutes. Depending on your video event, you may need to tweak from my quick settings.Below are two screen shots of the original and the “Geicoized” video.
Andrew Lenczycki
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I like seeing what people are trying to do on this forum because it gives me the impetus to try and figure out how I would do it. I layed down a video event on Track 3. On Track 1, I put Generated Media, Sony Text, and set the compositing mode to Multiply Mask. I duplicated the Generated Media, Sony Text from Track 1 to Track 2, and added the Sony Mask Generator FX to event in Track 2, setting the Mask to Alpha mode.
I then went back to Track 1 media, selected Pan/Crop and turned on the Mask checkbox. I then created a mask, turning the Path: Mode from Positive to Negative. This has the effect that the area that I have masked is not visible in the video and gives the illusion that the text is “hidden” behind the video object (me). Using the masking tool, I had to change the mask of the text on each frame (keyframing) to account for my movement in the video. I did this quickly, so if you freeze a frame, you can see that the mask was not perfect, but when watching in normal play, the illusion is made. I’ve attached the short 3 second video test file I created.
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