Al Bergstein
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I agree. I bought an HP ‘home’ computer, and burned out the motherboard in about 12 months…sigh.. they don’t put 600-800 watt power supplies in the home machines, and believe me, you are going to need it for heads down video work. High end graphics cards, estata drives, etc. will all pull power down. Just wear plastic gloves when you go into the box so you eliminate your static…and ground yourself while you are at it.
Alf
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Makes sense,thanks for clarifying.
Alf
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Thanks Mike, I think that your suggestion worked easiest. It was unchecked for some reason.
Alf
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Yes, the question of course is what cost, and what is your expectation of quality? Simple documentary overdubs on low or no budget can be achieved with what John describes. I did, however, do an overdub on a $100 desktop mic and usb adapter into my desktop machine. You can hear the results at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_shmNmoULnc
I liked the icicle adapter and plugged it into a AT2020 mic. Sound mastering for this was done on FCP (which I was using last spring due to client requirements), but Vegas should do just fine.
For higher quality recordings, you really should go directly into a deck with proper preamps, etc. But it’s all about what your client demands, and what you want to give in the way of quality.
Alf
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Alright, I’ll take a moment given this thread to join the lovefest. John, you and Mike are two of the main reasons that I have continued to use Vegas and stayed in Creative Cow. Your honest point of view about how to handle the various issues that this complex software over the last year has helped me get jobs done, and done quickly. On other boards often people are subtly or not so subtly trashed.
I want to take this pause in the firehose of this board, to just personally thank you for your time and efforts. Sony owes you a great deal of gratitude for expertise.
I continue to enjoy using Vegas, which I can’t say for some of it’s competitors. But the lack of documentation compared to them is sort of surprising. your expertise on this board is really appreciated.
From a solo editor/vidiot continuing to find a bit of work in the upper left hand corner of the map.
Alf
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ATI card? Not Nvidia?
Alf
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What do you plan to shoot? Studio, advertising, sports? It affects the choice. 7 D is environmentally sealed, extremely rugged, ESP. For sports, outdoors stuff. Built like a tank.
Alf
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Out of your short list, I’d probably go Vegas. Simplest? Can output to stuff you edit in. I think of adobe being more for pros. Even Vegas my be overkill.
Alf
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I don’t think so, but why not sync first, then create a new track from that sync’ed footage?
Alf
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Rod, while I truly appreciate your desire to make Vegas more popular, the issue of changing out a business model based on two of the leading competitors is pretty much an uphill climb and could be a career limiting move. It has not much to do with technical virtues.
Much of it is the ecosystem that Apple has created around FCP. They came to market early with a very sophisticated product and got serious buy in from thought leaders in Hollywood and elsewhere. They tied it to their very successful computer platform. They have a huge market of trained people coming in from the schools knowledgeable on it. Low wage labor that is well versed on the product.
The Avid side is the Hollywood, ‘we’re the pros’ POV, which also is not necessarily based on today’s realities (though to be clear, I’ve read over time of many shortcomings of Vegas as it relates to Avid and FCP, but I can’t personally validate those stories). And let’s be honest, Windows was a late comer to this market. Just a few years ago when I got serious about re-entering video I could not, for the life of me, get a Sony camera to connect to my Windows XP machine using Vegas (for reasons I still don’t understand). I got mad, ran out with my camera, went to a friend with Apple and FCP and immediately got it to connect and was editing in minutes. I never looked back until recently. Is W7 and Vegas 10.c finally able to seriously compete with the likes of FCP? Yes. It was in the 9x world, but 64 bit across the board has taken it to a new level. As has Adobe’s product suite, which when you look at all their products, is very compelling on it’s surface.
Some of it is also Sony’s fault, for not really approaching this market the same way Apple has. It seems more like a subsidiary of Microsoft than a leading candidate for best NLE. Just spend time on their official support board and hear the usual complaints of their support staff that people pay to dial into and their lack of knowledge. I don’t see many touting their excellence, unlike Apple’s. I have used Apple’s support staff occassionally, and was blown away by how good they were. Also, I don’t see Sony doing the real promotions, and their marketing seems anemic. If Sony put only a bit more into this product (mainly marketing and alliance building), they could really make a huge push forward. God help us if a few of the usual pros that help this forum left. Sony’s support seems very shallow, compared to the breadth and depth of Apples’ FCP community.
I think that Vegas is limited more by Sony than the product. The bottom line is that I can produce output way faster on Vegas than FCP, but to be clear, I am not a pro at the level you likely are and there may be limitations I’m unaware of. Doing my work faster makes me more profit. That’s ultimately why I use it.
The real dark horse is this new NLE called Lightworks that is open source and is now in beta test. If it’s as good as they say, and it’s nearly free, then all bets are off for the future.
Alf