Aindreas Gallagher
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saying that people are coming into the creative arts uninterested in the finest expressions of narrative film drama, narrative television drama, or documentary, or short form spots is lunatic and untrue.
there is no new lumbering class of magnetic timeline afficionados preparing to storm youtube to produce substandard content.
People are by nature ambitious. Ambition in the creative arts means applying your skill at the highest level.
[Bill Davis] ”
Most people edit to communicate. A significant portion of them edit to communicate for others for money. Of that sub-group, Movies and traditional TV are a further sub-group. The larger play is increasingly “direct to an audience” via the web. If one can’t see that tectonic shift, it’s because you’re not looking.
“this statement means nothing, it literally means nothing, the sub group argument makes no sense, the reason why people work years to attain editing skills features nowhere here.
The larger play is increasingly “direct to an audience” via the web.
What larger play? by who? what editors are they employing? are you speaking of production companies? documentary houses? studios? what are you actually talking about? are you speaking about repurposed content via hulu, iplayer, etc? why does this sentence make no sense? it read so emphatically, I was sure it actually meant something.
I noted here in another thread months ago, the story of a young intern in that works on the same local TV show that my wife appears on. That bright, attractive young talented girl had NO interest in working on TV. She had secured a primo entry job in the web world. And viewed broadcast as “old school.” She might have been interested in working on a “movie” – but knowing how painfully slow that process is when done properly, I suspect she might have been bored to death with that kind of career.
yes of course, you must be right, she’s bored to death of the idea of editing narrative cinematic film, I’m sure we all are. Its such a boring concept.
God but you crack me up.[Bill Davis] “That’s where we’re going. And X is being designed for her world. Period. “
there really is nothing like overly emphatic statements and a few caps eh?[Bill Davis] “Initiatives like VIMEO PRO and the “branded channel” model that Google is clearly building with the YouTube channel ecostructure”
yeah sure, youtube’s umpteenth attempt to gain entry to real content delivery, this time with a 100 mill sweetener, and a 5Dmk2, trapcode particular, showcase site like vimeo are indeeeeeed the future of creative content.
Not the studios, production companies, broadcasters, film makers, documentary makers, lighters, gaffers, editors, scriptwriters, colorists, storyboard artists, researchers, ap’s, location scouts, audiences, tax payers, cinema goers – no no – it all about a few websites, and some youtube videos.this all makes glorious sense.
can we not please agree that we are talking about the craft of editing?
bill’s supposition that there is a great lumbering ignored underclass moving to vimeo and the financially worthless youtube by an unseen force wielding a magnetic timeline and an akward DAM is lunacy.this is about the craft of editing. Apple have chosen to wilfully throw a large part of the agreed basis for its operation out the window, right down to matching eye levels with a source monitor – leaving editing practitioners from high to low, to poor murch traumatised.
and even if they were to have succeeeded as bill so gleefully outlines, leaving niche areas of excellence in television, documentary and film to go whistle while bill’s glorious FCPX vimeo on a 42″ plasma future comes about, (really – think about that proposition) aside – what have they achieved?
they have forcefully bifurcated the very operation of editing itself, creating a totally different nomenclature for casual purpose which then, in effect, locks their new adherents from the ladder of skills attainment to all that old boring highest definition of the craft, a place FCPX is blatantly uninterested in travelling to.
Even if this whole mess they have created works on their terms, Apple will have destroyed the continuous environment of editing by demanding FCPX be something they can sell, for cheap, for profit, to anyone.
Apple’s argument is false, mendacious, and will create harm to the basic craft of editing if it comes to pass as they wish it.
As currently envisioned, this application not only may fail – it actually should fail, and needs to fail. comprehensively.
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aha! *wags finger wildly*
so now we’re both drawing inferences….
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because its pretty plain that while he relates sending the letter.. if he had gotten any kind of reply, you’d think he would mention it? Also, at the end, his “do they love us anymore?” bit – doesn’t that sound like a man in the dark? One of the greatest living editors, who currently relies on FCP: does that sound like they communicated anything to him?
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it doesn’t actually say whether they even replied to his letter. From the way it reads in the piece you wonder if they didn’t just ignore it.
Apple really are on a very high horse lately.
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[Bill Davis] ” Because I’ve been making similar calls my entire career – and my track record has been largely successful in keeping with my personal skills and abilities.
I’m moving ahead with X, cause it feels right for me. If it doesn’t for you – for any damn reason you can imagine – change.
Couldn’t be simpler.”
Bill, could you kindly please stop telling people what to do. this is an open debate forum. Stop it.
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[Bill Davis] “Were you even at the Supermeet? You couldn’t have been – unless you had some kind of terrible cold that made you functionally blind and deaf.
I was one of the guys helping Michael Horton and Dan Berube run the SuperMeet and your description is so disconnected from reality as to be LAUGHABLE.
“you know bill, I remember you writing a reaaaally long whining post there a while back about people being mean and calling people names, calling you names even, complaining to Cow management came up, all this kind of stuff, you made a real stink as I recall, and then I read that stuff up above and remember that you are generally a hair away from blowhard condescending and contemptuous of your fellow forum members.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions. Unless your first name is Bill, in which case go half caps and just hose on people with really long condescending overblown posts whenever you feel like it”-Justice O’Connor
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I’ve got the same problem. I’m about to buy, but as far as I can tell, only the most very recent snow leopard DVD install will play ball with a Lion Apple box.
gumtree london pops up some very nice snow leopard towers, and even, god forgive me, rather nice i5 27″ imacs with 1 gig cards for relative buttons. I’m not making movies and well, I’m currently home running FCP and AE on a lappie 2.4 core2Duo at the mo. that doesn’t pain me. you get stuff done.
I will (some day very soon said the sloth) super duper or disk image my editing setup, but God but this is all just beginning to feel really rather dicey.
FCP gone a *tad* mental, OS gone a *tad* weird.. ech.
no windows mind you. There I just cannot go.
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Straight curiosity – I’m not using FCP7 in Lion – Steve Conner, in one of the podcasts, said on camera.. it’s working in Lion-*ish*.
He had a very exaggerated facial expression.How stable do we think FCP7 is as a conduit for FCPX going forward on Lion? Is there any technical word from Apple as to FCP7’s forward compatibility?
(I know, I’m sort of playing dumb, I know of no such statement) – but isn’t this an issue? An EOL application not really certified for the current operating system, that lives very uncomfortably with FCPX even in snow leopard is meant to be its snorkel to the world?
In best practise aren’t we in a different partition to access FCP7 in the first place? Does this feel like firm ground?
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yes. no matter what way you cut it – apple is a strange brew – our adherence to them, and our various reactions to what they have done here to the editing application we all used.
if this was a discussion about such an unimaginable change to any other industry standard application outside of the apple shell, the conversation, I think, would be different and simpler.
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