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Walter Murch won’t use FCX
Here’s a great blog post about the talk Mr. Murch gave at the Boston Supermeet. Great stuff.
https://www.chris-portal.com/2011/10/28/walter-murch-at-the-boston-supermeet/
At the end he touched upon FCX…
“He quickly looked at it, and said he couldn’t use it, wondering where the “Pro” had gone.”
And…
“Walter explained to Apple that FCPX “did not play well with others”. The lack of tracks was another killer for him. ”
The lack of tracks is so big it’s mind boggling that they are gone. That killed it for me too.
The fact that he won’t be using it is no surprise to me. I doubt many, if any, feature editors will use this. But that isn’t the target market anyway…
Shane
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One of the main reasons he moved to, and liked FCP was the fact that he could have up to 99 audio tracks, because he is, after all, and audio mixer. And Avid is still limited to 16 channels of audio playback. So FCP was really a godsend. I know that I have worked on projects with up to 48 audio tracks.
Shane
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Got to sell those ProTools boxes. Just adds to the cost of Avid. I can see him trying Premiere for his next show.
Despite announcement of new version coming soon, Avid looks to be in trouble with large layoffs. Could be down to Premiere and Lightworks for the feature market, unless Apple does a major ramp up, but I’m not seeing it coming soon enough. Adobe looks like the big winner in the pro market space.
All the best,
Tom
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The lack of tracks is absolutely mind-blowing. That is the number one reason I won’t even look at it as a viable editing option any longer. One of my clients requested 7 different versions of one timeline, then all 8 of those translated in to 2 different languages with subtitles. So in all, I had 24 different movies. I suppose if one had to do that the “Great Apple Gadget Co.” way, it would be one long “story” LOL. It is an absolute joke of a professional software application.
But perhaps I should be thanking the “Great Apple Gadget Co.”; because without their absolute removal of the “pro”, I probably would not of looked at Premiere. The integration between Pr and AE is absolutely stunning, and I can’t believe how much disk space I’m saving without having to render out FX plates for finalization within the editor. Not to mention how fast Media Encoder is… No, I do not work for Adobe–but I’l thrilled with what they’ve actually been doing.But that’s just my opinion…
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Spoke at a college in Sacramento last Wednesday. FCPX is part of their curriculum, the students love the software and they will definitely be using X. These students have no NLE baggage … Does Walter’s opinion matter to this demographic? None of those students know about the COW, the bickering and the heartbreak and probably don’t care. We are using X to put out more product than ever. I don’t have the answers. Conundrum comes to mind.
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It’s a strange situation. Taught a class at Maine Media Workshop using FCPX for still photographers wanting to do video. About a third of the class had used FCP before, the others were new to editing. Those without any prior reference were amazed at what you could do. A couple had used iMovie and were loving it, the natural upgrade path. Those with legacy backgrounds were frustrated no doubt, but they got the work done quickly enough and on time.
All the best,
Tom
Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
Coming in 2011 “Complete Training for FCPX” from Class on Demand
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[shawn Bockoven] ” These students have no NLE baggage …”
Shawn,
It’s more accurate to say they have no experience or expectations.
Reducing an editor’s experience and knowledge to nothing more than “baggage” is a bit emotional, wouldn’t you say?
Franz.
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it doesn’t actually say whether they even replied to his letter. From the way it reads in the piece you wonder if they didn’t just ignore it.
Apple really are on a very high horse lately.
http://www.ogallchoir.net
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If the article doesn’t say, why would you make such a supposition?
All the best,
Tom
Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
Coming in 2011 “Complete Training for FCPX” from Class on Demand
“Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users” from Focal Press -
because its pretty plain that while he relates sending the letter.. if he had gotten any kind of reply, you’d think he would mention it? Also, at the end, his “do they love us anymore?” bit – doesn’t that sound like a man in the dark? One of the greatest living editors, who currently relies on FCP: does that sound like they communicated anything to him?
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[shawn Bockoven] “FCPX is part of their curriculum, the students love the software and they will definitely be using X. These students have no NLE baggage … Does Walter’s opinion matter to this demographic?”
Depends. Do they want to edit feature films? Broadcast TV shows? Narrative, large format docs? Then they’d better learn the proper tools for it. FCX won’t be used for 99% of this work. There might be the odd rebels out there, but most will be cut with Avid, some on Legacy FCP, some moving to Premiere. And if they learn the iMovie/FCX way of editing, then try to get work on these shows (starting as assistants, or Post PAs), they will be utterly lost, and need to start over. They might not even get the job (as assistants) if they only NLE they know is FCX. They won’t have a clue about how to do anything required for the job. The could start as Post PAs though…and then take classes on using the NLE the business they are in requires, or learn on the job.
Walter Murch’s opinion matters. It was because of him that a LOT of people moved to FCP. And really, most of them NOT cutting features. But a lot of people do. And when they hear that someone high in the business uses certain software to cut a feature, they are like “wow, I need that software too!”
But, if they are into the web video demographic, or going into wedding video, certain corporate video markets…yeah…FCX will be great for them.
Shane
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