Aindreas Gallagher
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[Bill Davis] ”
Sooner or later all the folks who come here to moan about how Apple has ruined their lives will go to the Premier and Avid boards to piss and moan about how badly they are being treated there – because complaining without proffering constructive alternatives is just a manifestation of the “victim” state of mind, nothing more.
“yes, of course, yet another brilliant, balanced take down of the other side there. bile never more than an inch away.
It’s not a victim state of mind you are seeing Bill; it is voiced criticism in a forum specifically designed to present both it and the opposing view.
That being somewhat the essence of civil discourse.
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well, I just sort of want to keep kicking apple – in a gnats left boot on a lumbering giants left arse cheek fashion.
I’m not feeling hopeless Jim – I’m annoyed.
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[Steve Connor] “I would imagine that Apple have considered this, when deciding on their path forward. Do we think they’ll be particularly bothered?”
apple carefully devoted the first half of this decade, and every day in the nineties, to a user base that kept them going – the real problem everyone is having is that we thought apple was definitively different in its approach and basic belief with regard to the creative arts and technology. God knows their advertising told us so. but that was wrong, it was just happenstance.
Apple are jettisoning, with incredibly loud whooshing noises, the hardware and software basis for the pursuit of the professional creative arts on their hardware and software systems.
they were a company founded on the expression of the creative arts. From steve’s calligraphy class drop in on down through adobe, aldus, the laserwriter, quicktime, desktop publishing and then, god love it now, FCP.
the problem is that the company we hold in our minds doesn’t exist today. Our old apple got eaten completely by a new apple.
In that you are right steve: this Apple couldn’t give a tupenny damn for the woes they are visiting on their old crowd.
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Well frankly more ticked off than emotional bill.
I see you’re pushing the horizontal clawing around the base of the dreaded pyramid there again.
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yep.
god please let them bat PPro 6 cleanly out of the park.
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craig, there is no mac mini pro. nobody on any in the know site has ever spoken seriously about what you’re referring to there have they? i stand to be corrected but – can we please stop talking about the amazing things they’re going to do once they’re finished gutting the professional hardware/software base of the company that we’re all so invested in?
let’s all just take a moment and enjoy the view as apple eviscerate the professional hardware/software base we’re heavily invested in.
they’re just going to discontinue the tower. they’re not going to go hogwarts and pull something out of the hat.
they’re just going to discontinue the tower.
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we’re all going to end up in a tumbled mess on windows at this rate craig. Its going to end up the only place to go, and their start menu just turned into windows phone. this is all going to get a lot, lot less fun from here on out. and possibly a lot more expensive if we’re completely hived off from the herd.
who realistically thinks the next (last?) version of the mac os is likely usable for video professionals?
it’s the first time I actually genuinely thought that.
the days of FCP studio are going to end up being eulogised. particularly if avid goes under now too.
editing is sliding into a hole here.
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[Tom Wolsky] “you’re focused on YOUR tools.”
god, utterly wrong. surely, as with any given craft, are we not only meant to have shared tools, we have to have shared tools?
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[Tom Wolsky] “No, we’re not talking about the craft the of editing. We’re talking about tools. “
of course tom, because they must be entirely different issues . I’ll leave it at that anyway.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “They are always thoughtful and based in a bit of reality through rhetoric.”
Well, I do like a bit of reality.
baby, there is nothing quite like the backhanded compliment.ahem.
i hold my opinions genuinely here. I think the goals of this software are intrinsically invalid.
there are some incredibly interesting tidbits to be had about the war in apple over what this software was meant to be.
the idea that the provision of persistent in out markers for clips being a current on the record “furious debate” in apple (Larry Jordan), I found truly show stopping in terms of their care and duty as editing software providers right?as an editor jeremy, do you think persistent in out markers for clip items to be an article of debate in your mind? what kind of people do we think are having that argument in apple? who are they? how well versed in editing practise do we think they are? No one in apple coded the FCP we use. It was bought strategically a decade ago. So this is their first bat right? How do we think their effort has gone? they had forced out and fired most of the proapps team a year previous, apparently most of this application was coded by the itunes software team – does that feel appropriate?
the amount of chrome on the editing items themselves – does that feel on the ball? I can’t speak fairly until I have my own new system in january, as opposed to my crappy lappie, but I’ve done thirty item lifts on spanking new software elsewhere and the responsiveness feels very dodgy to me? It feels incredibly gluey to me? How important is that do we think? also the zoom slow down? and why is there an animation there? how did that happen? who thought that animation was appropriate repeatedly in repeated operation in high stress, time intensive editing situations?
apple are on a very high, near messianic horse lately. and the decisions they made about this application they made a very long time ago.
the guy who worked on FCP from 2002- 2008 told us this **months** ago bud.
https://sachin.posterous.com/why-apple-built-final-cut-pro-x
“Apple doesn’t care about the pro space “
he goes on with some guff about expanding the editing world, but the point stands that we are not talking about some amorphous software construct, some alteration to the UVW mapping in 3DSmax – we’re talking about a hatchet being taken to the basic tentents of editing by software teams who know barely anything about it. Software teams who are on the record from Larry Jordan and others as having totally ignored all feedback.
Jeremy – in MS word terms, as outlined by walter murch, they produced a version of microsoft word that cannot open any previous versions of written documents created in Microsoft word, not a single written word.
and, continuing the thought experiment, given that editing is close to the written word of the moving image, they also killed the only standing version of microsoft word that could support those written words – nevermind the hacks out now – that is what they presented to the world.let that sink in for a bit.
think about who apple say they are to the creative community, and think about what they did there.
they left any continuance of those written/edited documents entirely up to chance.
Jeremy: in truth, I simply find all this somewhat utterly enraging from a company that so, so so loves to wrap itself in the flag of the band creative.
I just don’t know these guys.
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