QNAP FCP X Slowdown/Beachball Issue via Thunderbolt 3 & SMB 3 (TVS-1282T3)

[Melany Villeneuve]

Everybody is working in the same room. This is why Thunderbolt is not an issue for us. While we are considering other solutions, I would like to know more about the new Sonnet Solo 10G. Strangely, nothing we can find over the net. You have a link?

Mel 🙂

[Bob Zelin]

You purchase a small QNAP, like the TVS-873e ($1299) that requires an optional 10G card, or your purchase a QNAP that already has a 10G card in it, like the TVS-1282T, or TS-1685. You plug the 10G port into the new QNAP
QSW-1208-8C switch ($589 retail – also brand new product as of NAB). This is an 8 port 10G switch. (12 SFP+, and 8 10Gbase-T for copper RJ45 Cat 6 cables).

The Solo 10G is a brand new product for Sonnet. It is not on the Sonnet website yet. It was at NAB, and I used one for demonstration with a QNAP at the Maxx Digital booth. QNAP also had one of these at their booth. IT’s $199 retail.
It’s buss powered, thunderbolt 3 only (not backwards compatible to thunderbolt 2), and has a single 10G port for connection to a 10G switch. Read/Write Speeds on the TVS-873e were about 600 WRITE, and 1000 READ.
On the QNAP TVS-882ST3, we got 900 WRITE and 1000 READ, using the same MacBook Pro, same Sonnet Solo 10G and same QNAP QSW-1208-8C switch.

When new products are just released, you need to wait a few weeks to see them on the usual Amazon, B&H websites.

Bob Zelin

Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com

[Nikos Papadopoulos]

https://www.google.gr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=16&ved=2ahUKEwixzJ_lvcHaAhUE7RQKHdvHA004ChAWMAV6BAgAEEQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fresource.holdan.co.uk%2FHoldan%2Fmagazines%2FSonnet_Brochure_Summer2018.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1Eo-vMz-ejUMo5QHD5vocb

Here you go for more info on Sonnet. Also excited about the PCI-e card for 100$!!…

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[Melany Villeneuve]

Thanks Nick, very promising!

As we dig the info and possible issues between FCPX and TVS-1282t3, we are looking elsewhere. Jellyfish from Lumaforge seems to have something more targeted to FCPX market which makes us more confident I guess.

You guys are great and again, thank you very much for sharing your thoughts and issues with products!

Best regards,

Mel 🙂

[Nikos Papadopoulos]

Mel hello!

Jellyfish is really a plug and play solution. In my opinion, the only thing that separates it from the QNAP is its ability to search within spotlight! You connect to it via 10G ethernet just like the QNAP and thunderbolt is not a option. What you are not getting with it is a server. So you will not be able to connect to your footage and files remotely from your phone/tablet/internet ( a feature I could barely live without now!). You will not be getting a whole host of apps, or any sort of expandability via thunderbolt. And also you will not get the Jellyfish at the QNAP price. Your requirements therefore will dictate your options!

Always with regards,
Nikos

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[Melany Villeneuve]

For us, plug and play is the way to go since we have no experience in server at all. Nobody likes to deal with problems especially with tight schedule.

Having access to the footage on the go is not even a possibility. The local internet company is offering 15 Mbit/s download and 800 Kbit/s upload. Thats very slow ☹

I agree with you that no matter what solutions, 10gbe adaptors from TB2 will be required. Still waiting for estimates from SNS EVO and Lumaforge.

Best regards,

Mel 🙂

[Nikos Papadopoulos]

I agree that dealing with problems is really a demotivator. A small correction, the QNAP has a realtime transcoding engine, so you can view it under the worst circumstances. Of course you can access the original too, but QNAP has really nailed this so well, I have impressed quite a few clients already!

Of course the estimates from the other companies will be quite above the QNAP and while it is quite a difficult area technical-wise, you can get started quite easily with a quick youtube video. If you order from SPAN.com you can also get it preconfigured, so 99% you’ll be good to go after connecting a few cables and change a couple of settings. I don’t know your level of expertise, so in case you don’t want to involve yourself setting anything up, Lumaforge has great support.

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[Nikos Papadopoulos]

Bob hi!

Did you by the way get to test the Solo 10G connected directly to the QNAP? If you did, was the performance the same?

Sonnet said end of the month availability. Looking forward to getting a couple!

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[Bob Zelin]

Hi Nick –
yes, I showed the QNAP TVS-882ST3 working with an iMac and the Sonnet Solo 10G at NAB. We got about 1000 MB/sec WRITE and READ. And it requires no driver installation, if you are running 10.13.3 or higher.

And Melany, I can help you with the QNAP, and you will save a lot of $$$ .

Bob Zelin

Bob Zelin
Rescue 1, Inc.
bobzelin@icloud.com

[Melany Villeneuve]

Hi Bob,

Any help is welcome here. ☺

I understand that the Jellyfish is 8,995.00 (32TB) and the QNAP TVS-1282T3-i7-32G (32TB) is 5,270.00 on amazon.
It would be perfect to be hooked by thunderbolt port without issue cause this is a feature and this is why this particular solution seems attractive at first sight. If not… Because of Apple, Qnap or else,…Then

I need 3 Thunderbolt 2 adaptors to 10Gbe for our 3 Mac Pros Late 2013. There is 1 iMac that need to be hooked for documents and other small stuff that can live with 1Gb connection

Do you think, a smal team of 4-5 can easily work together with this shared storage?

Best

Mel 🙂