Plans for FCP2 Suite Use Cancelled Pending Software Fixes

[Tom Daigon]

“To be honest, we don’t much care whether you use FCS or not.”

Very nice sentiment, Tom. Thanks for letting my know your feelings on the issue. Be sure
to share this with other editors that are enthusiatstic about FCP but find current issues
make its use problematic for the moment.

[Ron Lindeboom]

You can post whatsoevertheheck you please, Oliver. But seeing as you put brackets on either side (as Michael Horton pointed out), your link disappeared and you could never have seen it — as it was never there.

Greater Than and Lesser Than symbols are Linux control operator commands and so when you wrap them at the beginning and end of something, it disappears when you post it as the Linux server thinks you are trying to send a command not post a web link.

Don’t put anything before or after your link and it will work fine…

Ron Lindeboom

[Tom Wolsky]

I’m sorry, but I didn’t see the point of your repeatedly mentioning in your messages that you can’t get your people to use FCS2 because of the problems with rendering. That they use the application or not is not relevant to the problem, but I appreciate the issue for those in LA.

All the best,

Tom

Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 2 Editing Workshop” Class on Demand “Complete Training for FCP5” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy” DVDs

[Sean Oneil]

[Tom Wolsky] “We all get to beta test it. “

Exactly the problem IMO. They have more than enough resources to thouroughly test every possible workflow scenario.

[John Pale]

[walter biscardi] “So I’m assuming there’s no constant to the render issue? As in it’s always a type of shot or something in the timeline that seems to trigger bad renders?”

There is no pattern and there is nothing unusual. The only constant is duplicated sequences.
Why its affecting some people and not others is pretty bizarre. I have been pretty blessed over the years and never experienced a lot of the weird bugs people have reported, but I am experiencing this. My workaround (detailed elsewhere in the thread) seems to solve things, thankfully.
Apple has acknowledged the existence of the problem, so hopefully they figure it out in short order.

[Tom Wolsky]

I assume there’s a beta program, and most likely those testing aren’t using these techniques. It’s not a question of resources. It’s more a question of secrecy.

All the best,

Tom

Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 2 Editing Workshop” Class on Demand “Complete Training for FCP5” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy” DVDs

[Ron Lindeboom]

[Oliver Peters] “I’m not trying to be argumentative…”

You could have fooled me by your flipping out on some of the lists across the Net.

We keep certain words in the filter so that we can block porn, spam, etc.

The word censor has been in the filter to catch things like “Uncensored etc., etc.”, because many of the porn spam engines don’t use XXX or that kind of tact anymore. They try to use more normal words. In fact, it’s been a while since I have even seen that one used and so I have removed it and substituted “Paris” and “Hilton” instead. ;o)

If we were trying to censor you, then why on Earth did we send through your post unedited???

But don’t let anything slow you down from berating us here and at other venues on the net; after all, you aren’t being argumentative, right?

Ron Lindeboom

[Ben Holmes]

I have not had the render problem yet on our new FCS2 suites, but it’s probably just a workflow issue.

However, Motion 3 is easily the least stable piece of Apple software I have ever used. Had to get used to hitting save every time I changed a parameter.

And yes – I’m sure some of you have had no problems with it, but I have. On a brand new, clean system installed and tested by Promax, and totally stable with FCP6. But Motion…..

Ben

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[Walter Biscardi]

[Tom Wolsky] “assume there’s a beta program, and most likely those testing aren’t using these techniques. It’s not a question of resources. It’s more a question of secrecy.”

With all the issues we’ve seen from FCP 5 through 5.1.4 to now 6.0.1 it’s obvious the beta program is woefully inadequate. With 800,000 registered users there should be about 1,000 people testing the software to ensure that as many system variations / editing workflows as possible are tested. I’m not sure there’s even 100 outside people testing the software based on some of the major issues we see pop up for just some people, like this one. I’ve never seen it, nobody I know is experiencing it, but it’s there and it’s a major issue that will affect your entire workflow and potentially your bottom line if it’s not addressed.

Seems that Apple is now only testing “optimal workflows” which is a shame because this is supposed to be a very flexible, open format suite of applications that can run on a myriad of system configurations. If you don’t test on a myriad of system configurations and workflows, you’ll never find all the major issues in the application.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Broadcast and independent productions.

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[David Roth weiss]

[walter biscardi] “Seems that Apple is now only testing “optimal workflows” which is a shame because this is supposed to be a very flexible, open format suite of applications that can run on a myriad of system configurations. If you don’t test on a myriad of system configurations and workflows, you’ll never find all the major issues in the application.”

Walter,

I have a slightly different view of the problem. I think that things have gotten a bit tougher for our favorite engineers what with Intel and non-Intel machines, and Leopard just around the bend. Their job has grown exponentially more complex now I think.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles

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