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Corporate Hubris
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“The EX-1/3 still being the best value in the market.
You don’t get nowhere else 1/2″ CMOS and 10b Unc out for that price.”You got that right, I still can’t believe how good that camera looks for the money.
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“Bigger sensor is just a burden when you are recording 1080.”
Why do you say that? I’m not doubting you, I’m asking out of ignorance.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Herb Sevush] “Why do you say that? I’m not doubting you, I’m asking out of ignorance.”
This is an awesome article about resolution, from way back in aught nine:
https://magazine.creativecow.net/article/the-truth-about-2k-4k-the-future-of-pixels
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fantastic article, I’m still trying to digest some of it. Thanks for pointing me to it.
As an aside, I loved the discussion of frame rates. I went to a lecture by Doug Trumbull about Showscan and believe wholeheartedly that an increase in projected frame rate would be an incredible advance, although i doubt it will ever happen. The discussion about the so called “magic” of 24 fps reminded me of many a futile argument I had on the Cow on this subject when 720P60 first became a standard.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Herb Sevush] “The discussion about the so called “magic” of 24 fps reminded me of many a futile argument I had on the Cow on this subject when 720P60 first became a standard.”
I would be interested in seeing 48p in both acquisition and delivery. There’s no question that p is better than i.
There are many merits to 24p in a bandwidth driven world, aesthetics aside.
Remember 24p wasn’t crated for aesthetics, it was a technical limitation at the time. It’s just last this long and the technology has far surpassed that limitation.
Jeremy
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“I would be interested in seeing 48p in both acquisition and delivery. There’s no question that p is better than i.”
Showscan was 60 FPS 65mm acquisition and projection. It was amazingly vivid.
“Remember 24p wasn’t crated for aesthetics, it was a technical limitation at the time.”
That is both the truth and my argument at the time, but you will be amazed at how many people argue that 24 is some sort of mystical perfect frame rate.
As far as bandwidth goes why stop at 24, with digital audio why not go down to 18, which was the speed generally settled on before the advent of sound. Apocryphally, the only reason that frame rate wasn’t lower was that slower rates triggered epileptic seizures in the audience. In any case 18 fps provides a clean illusion of motion.
Trumbull’s argument was that the media business always went for the cheapest (and worst) possible standard that the audience would accept, but why not give them a much higher standard and see if they will pay for it. 48 fps converts more neatly to PAL so it would probably makes the most sense.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Herb Sevush] “As far as bandwidth goes why stop at 24, with digital audio why not go down to 18, which was the speed generally settled on before the advent of sound. “
I don’t think anyone would argue to go further down, although who the hell knows these days.
[Herb Sevush] “Trumbull’s argument was that the media business always went for the cheapest (and worst) possible standard that the audience would accept, but why not give them a much higher standard and see if they will pay for it.”
Yeah, cheaper is usually better in the case of film. I mean, if you have to add “x” more feet of film per screen, that will be “x” more dollars which you either pass on to the theatre goers, or eat. That changes a little bit with digital delivery/projection.
It’s like if we were to day today, every new car sold to be a hybrid. That would automatically mean every single car has a premium put on it. Most people would be pissed, except those who wanted a hybrid to begin with.
Why stop @ 48? Why not go to 72(75) or 96(100)!!!! 😉
Jeremy
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Why stop @ 48? Why not go to 72(75) or 96(100)!!!! 😉
Trumbull didn’t stop at 48 he went straight to 60. At the presentation, which took place at the Ziegfeld Theater in NY, he had a reason for 60 but I don’t remember what it is now.
It is true that being a slave to backward compatibility is often a nuisance – see, now where back to FCPX but I’m arguing for your side now — bite my tongue.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Herb Sevush] “At the presentation, which took place at the Ziegfeld Theater in NY, he had a reason for 60 but I don’t remember what it is now.”
Probably because tv runs @ 60Hz in the US.
[Herb Sevush] “It is true that being a slave to backward compatibility is often a nuisance – see, now where back to FCPX but I’m arguing for your side now — bite my tongue.
“Ha! Good one.
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“Probably because tv runs @ 60Hz in the US.”
I assume you meant that electricity runs at 60Hz. Since Showscan was primarily a theatrical concept I don’t see why this would be germane, but i don’t have a better reason.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf
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