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Herb Sevush
November 9, 2011 at 10:44 pmBravo –
I had my own list but didn’t want to turn this into a political thread.
Glad you did.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Chris Conlee
November 9, 2011 at 10:59 pmBill et al.,
In the interest of not hijacking (completely) this thread, I’ll let it go. Although the desire to respond is strong.
Chris
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Jeremy Garchow
November 9, 2011 at 11:12 pm[Herb Sevush] “Jeremy –
I missed the EOS 1DX announcement. Does it have HD-SDI out while shooting? I tried looking at reviews and didn’t see it mentioned.”
Nope. Same video out as 7d has been reported. It’s still limited.
Really, it’s a decently higher end still camera, but has a few upgraded video features.
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Herb Sevush
November 9, 2011 at 11:25 pmYou had me ready to take back my whole argument for a moment. But no, Canon hasn’t let me down.
They have a large base of users who have made them the darlings of the indie video world. These users are clamoring for HD-SDI out and pro audio. Do they get it – apparently not. That would be too easy.
Instead Canon wants to go compete in the pro market -OK, why not. But can’t you do both? Why ignore your base, the folks who put you in a position to make this move in the first place? Most of them can’t afford a 15-20K camera, no matter what the features.
I still don’t get it.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Jeremy Garchow
November 10, 2011 at 12:00 am[Herb Sevush] “Instead Canon wants to go compete in the pro market -OK, why not. But can’t you do both? Why ignore your base, the folks who put you in a position to make this move in the first place? Most of them can’t afford a 15-20K camera, no matter what the features.”
I think you’re missing that these are still cameras. It’s really that easy. This base you speak of has always been photographers and video is a bonus, not the other way around.
Most features on that camera are for stills, why would we need carbon blades?
Jeremy
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Steve Connor
November 10, 2011 at 12:18 amI think a lot of people were holding off buying AF100s or FS100s until after the announcement. I’m betting Sony and Panasonic’s sales numbers have risen on these cameras in the last few days.
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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Jeremy Garchow
November 10, 2011 at 1:19 amIf you have electronic canon glass, you will need a Birger as well, to take advantage of the aperture and focus on some lenses.
It’s been delayed. Again. It just moved behind the f3 in priority a few days ago.
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Richard Cardonna
November 10, 2011 at 1:22 amCanon went into the pro now Hasselblad should be next.
RC
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Shawn Miller
November 10, 2011 at 2:22 am“And show me an example of government efficiency, please”
If your house ever catches on fire, or someone violates you IP rights… just sayin’..
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Rafael Amador
November 10, 2011 at 5:43 am[Herb Sevush] “There is no reason to pick a 7D over a Panasonic GH2, which is much better equipped for shooting video, but the same cannot be said for the 5D.”
I expect to get me a Lumix.
There is hack that allows recording at “170Mbps”. That’s amazing.The CANON EOS 1D-X with his new processor looks great. That should greatly improves video over the 5D and 7D. But again, no SDI out.. This camera will kill the 5D, at least for video. Bigger sensor is just a burden when you are recording 1080.
But a tribute to the 5D. She made the revolution.I think that a 15/20k camera with just 8b/422 recording is real shortcoming. The CANON C300 or the F3 makes sense only with an external recorder. MPEG-2 is great, but not at 50Mbps.
Another great option is the “PANA AF-100 + an external recorder”, but again, the SDI puts out just 8b Unc.
PANA they have just released a 5K camera that records (AVC-I) and puts out the SDI 10b Unc, but just 1/3″ CMOS.
So whatever the combination you make, in the end is about to, as Mark said, getting the VISA card on fire.
Every affordable camera is some somehow, and purposely handicapped.
To get what you need you have to pay for what you doesn’t need.[tony west] “The EX1R
I used no DOF adapter and no MB on this shot. Just controlling the amount of light into the lens.
People see it and think it’s a 5D shot.”
The EX-1/3 still being the best value in the market.
You don’t get nowhere else 1/2″ CMOS and 10b Unc out for that price.
I love my EX-1.
I record on a NANO-Flash which allows me to select from 19Mbps/LGOP/420 to 280Mbps/422/Intraframe.
That’s virtually 8b Uncompressed.[Mark Dobson] “The Canon XF Mpeg2 4:2:2 50Mbs codec will become as ubiquitous as Pro-Res is now.”
That’s is 8b/YUV LGOP while Prores is 10b/YUV Intraframe.
The workflow is great (XDCAM), but 50Mbps is in the limit for MPEG-2/LGOP/422.Rafael
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