[Wilson]

Thanks for the Info Jeff,

We have decided to go with the 50″ Panasonic TH-50PF9UK and the HDSDI Terminal board TY-FB9HD. The sync issue is a concern, but we have a better chance of getting it right coming out HDSDI then DVI. Being a pro model we can at least test it. All the sales places selling Bravia, wanted to charge a 20% repacking fee, if we returned it.

Ian

[Wilson]

Try downloading the latest codec from Panasonic. Your MBP has to have this software to recognize the cards We found some initial trouble when we went over to the new 16GB cards and the latest download fixed it. However we use a Power Book which takes the PCMCIA direct and thats how we download the cards. I assume the same bit off software supplied by Panasonic to mount a PCMIA card on a PB is required to mount your camera with the cards onboard, they should show on the desktop as if they where in a PCMCIA slot. If i get a chance I will try doing it that way and see if it mounts.

Hope this helps

Ian

[Wilson]

Thanks Arnie for your response.

I understand that process, what I am interested in is the correct sequence to choose in FCP that will reconstruct the progressive frame for editing and then how that is played out progressively to a Sony client monitor, that is a progressive display. The BMD Multibridge DVI out should do that, but I have been advised by BMD that their DVI only supports 1080i. I understand AJA can do that, so I may have to abandon my MBE to achieve this. I suppose the issue is whether FCP after cutting progressively can display play out on the the fly in 1080i using the MBE. This project has to in P as is going out to film. We tend to do these projects at 25F and just pitch the sound, 24P gives us to many problems.

Thanks.

[Wilson]

[gary adcock] “WILSON] “by changing the frame rate of 720p 24 preset to 25 in the sequence it will import 720p 25 material shot on the P2 card?”
You can try that As I said I can do it with hardware- and I am not sure that you will be able to do anything with the footage once you get it into FCP without some kind of hardware (AJA Kona Board) support.”

WILSON
Yes we run BMD Extreme in all our suites and there is some support for the resolutions, but the 720P support is nonexistent until Apple do something.

Thanks again Gary

Ian

[Wilson]

Jan said

“I thought that the 1080 would would and am surprised that the Standard Def does not work. I know the 720P is not working today but rumblings are pointing to IBC for that to be resolved. Keep in mind that in Europe 720P was only identified as HD standard at last year’s IBC, so the fact that it was not ready to be supported is no big surprise in my book. I mean why would any company put in the R & D to make something work if it was not a sure thing to become an accepted standard.”

Wilson

gary adcock has made a number of suggestion to get that to work (see previous post)
I agree, completely about IBC, I was aware that is about to be ratified

Wilson

>We also want to be able to shoot 1080i 24P and keep it progressive we don’t want it to come in as 60i

This is just not going to happen. First your camera will not do it, and second there would be no way to establish the pulldown for one frame in a 50Hz stream. If you need 24P, you will just have to shoot in 25P and slow it down, as they have been doing for years in Europe.

Wilson

Yea we do it all the time, I was just looking forward to releasing straight to a HDCam or SR Master at 1080i 24p without having to deal with 4.1% trials and tribulations.

Thanks again Jan for your assistance, I appreciate it.

Ian

[Wilson]

Thanks Gary for your suggestions.

You said

“should you wish you can take the 720p 24 preset in FCP and change the frame rates in the seq and play back settings – you will be able to use the 35p content inside of FCP – AJA Video also supports the 720p25 data on their hardware.

At the moment nothing will import from the P2 card other than through the 1080i 50P codac. Are you saying that we have to match the sequence and play back settings in FCP, before it will import? and by changing the frame rate of 720p 24 preset to 25 in the sequence it will import 720p 25 material shot on the P2 card?

You said

“You should be able to use the DV and DV-50 PAL settings to get these to work. – FCP however needs to be adjusted to the PAL upper field first setting.”

We will try that, thanks again for you help appreciate it, if you are ever in Oz I will buy you a beer.

[Wilson]

Thanks for the response Jan, I am impressed that somebody from Panasonic monitors this list.
Are you saying that footage shot at 1080 25P when imported under the 1080i 50P codek into FCP (as thats the only one that works at all with any of the resolutions as far as I can tell) ends up being 1080 60 htz ie its no longer progressive but interlaced?

My issue is that all the frame rates that are available for that camera

1080i 50i
1080i 25P
720P 50P
720P 25P
720P 25N
576i 50i
576 25P

Cannot be edited by FCP, as far as I can tell the only resolution that is supported is 1080i 25P and that will co me in under the 1080i 50P codek and I assume it works a bit like segmented frame, ie it just uses the interlace as a wrapper to transport the progressive frame and reconstructs to a progressive frame at the other end. Our tests demonstrate that the frames are being played progressively.

We are very impressed with the pictures but with no way to edit it at 720P 50P in FCP its just not a proposition.
We also want to be able to shoot 1080i 24P and keep it progressive we don’t want it to come in as 60i
These issues will have to fixed for it to make any headway in the PAL world.