Tim Kolb
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I’ve had a couple of laptops that seemed to ingest DV to an external drive from a camera hooked up in loop through….and some that didn’t.
One thing that I’ve found doesn’t usually work very well, though others have had better luck, is getting one of these PCMCIA cards that has FW ports on it and using one peripheral on the internal and one on the card. The PCMCIA card just doesn’t seem to have the throughput to keep up.
It’s sort of a dilemma. None of us want a pizza oven, but we can’t edit video (or at least get the content in and out) as easily on the super efficient laptops.
I have a 3.2 HT/2 Gigs/2×60 Raid 0 7200rpm/DVD-RW with a wide screen, but it doesn’t even fully open up on an airplane in anything less than business class. I call it a lapstation.
TimK,
Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net -
I suspect the biggest, baddest Centrino would be the answer. I use a laptop with a desktop processor, but it is a furnace…and when all the fans are running, it hovers.
The only caveat is drives. Centrinos tend to come with harddrives that conserve power in a similar fashion to the processor. A 4200rpm drive won’t be useful for even a little DV content. You’ll want a 7200rpm drive if you plan on storing any media internally.
As far as brands go…there are a lot of badges, but only a few real manufacturers. I’d lean toward a vendor you have a comfort level with and one you know will support the product.
TimK,
Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net -
[David Kirlew] “What do you mean by DVC Pro HD being lossy? Does that mean that HDV or HDCAM is a better format?”
Well…most all the acquisition HD formats except HDCAM SR and the Viper are lossy…or in other words, have lost data through compression that won’t be reproduced when the video is decompressed.
Don’t misunderstand me. They can all produce good pictures in their own right, it’s just that most of these constant bit rate codecs aren’t really structured for editing. On a strict data rate basis (uncompressed HD being 1.2-1.4 Gigabits per second), JVC HDV is the lowest at 19.7 Mbits/sec, then Sony HDV 25 Mbits/sec, then there’s DVC ProHD at 100 Mbits/sec, next is HDCAM at 140 Mbits/sec, then D5 at 235 Mbits/sec, and then HDCAM SR at 440/880 Mbits/sec. and finally the Viper which can go directly to disk via dual link at levels up to uncompressed. Image quality is really a separate issue from data rate however…
Many editing systems like Avid DNxHD or CineForm have codecs designed more for post…the best use variable bit rates at higher rates than acquisition formats. Variable bitrate allows extra room in the data rate in case a change made in post ends up needing more data to accurately describe the new image. It also saves data in shots with little movement, where the data rate can be decreased.
I personally like the idea of using a more post-friendly codec, but yes, most of these systems do convert the media.
TimK,
Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net -
[Kent Smith] “Sorry, I meant the HDC27H. But regardless, dvcpro hd in 24P mode is what I’d like to shoot on, but that doesn’t answer the question if Prem.Pro can handle dvcpro hd or any dvcpro format.”
I needed to know what the question actually was…uncompressed SD is a different animal that HD…all “DVC Pro” formats are not the same by any stretch.
You would need an HD-SDI system that used a proprietary codec…I think that BlueFish, AJA and Black Magic all work with PPro…the first two for sure anyway.
There is no FW workflow with DVC ProHD on the PC. DVC ProHD is kind of lossy to use to edit in my opinion, but if that’s what you seek…it’s a Mac you need.
TimK,
Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net -
The AJ-SPX800 is a standard definition camcorder. DV/DVC Pro/DVC Pro50.
TimK,
Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net -
I’ve been waiting to see if anyone is running Aspect on an Athlon 64…
I run Aspect on a P4 and Prospect on dual Opterons. I’ve not run Aspect on an Athlon 64.
An Athlon 64 is mentioned on the spec sheet however, which I’m sure you’re aware of…
Sorry I don’t have more.
TimK,
Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net -
The problem is getting the media into PPro at that lower res…unless there’s a mode and project settings available with the Decklink card.
Ppro will edit just about anything with some custom project settings…the rub is getting timecode into the system with the low res media. It has to be captured by PPro to do it. You can’t convert the media outside PPro and edit it and still have a useful EDL…
It’s one area where FCP has a leg up at the moment. I would think you could edit with DV, couldn’t you? That could be captured with TC and then you’d have a useful offline.
TimK,
Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net -
Along with this input, you may want to check the copious links to archived discussions they supplied you with on the Vegas Forum…
Vegas has an advantage on a lesser system as it will run on probably the slimmest system of any NLE. PPro has the Adobe integrated workflow for visual effects work in AE, Photoshop, etc. and Vegas has great interaction on the audio side with Sound Forge and Acid…
TimK,
Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net -
Oh yes, the changeover issue from scrub to preview RT playback is a known issue and nVidia knows about that too. I have that on this system.
You won’t see it on PPro HDV mose because there is no switchover to the RT mode…
TimK,
Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net -
Is this one of those cameras where there is a switch to choose which channels are coming out via FW?
You would have to do another capture pass for the other two channels and re-sync it.
TimK,
Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net